Part and parcel for the simple buying process. They could remove a whole world of heart ache by making people come into the show room to place the deposit, or following a test drive (which both are not covered under the distance selling rules). But we’re going back to the legacy dealership model then. Good, bad or indifferent.
On the plus side your car is worth just shy of 50% of that after 5 years of ownership. Thats very low depreciation for a brand new car.
Got rid of it in January for €26k. Just under 50% depreciation in four years is probably more or less what I was expecting when I bought it, was a very different world in November 2019 though.
That will be the deciding factor.
I'm in a lucky position that I'm covered by the distance selling regulations and have 11 days to deal with this. The only deduction mentioned in the order agreement is the return fee. I'm happy to drive to Sandyford so no fee arises.
The car has only done about 200kms and whatever else in the forthcoming days.
I've emailed Tesla and asked for any proposal that they might have given my rights and, respectfully, suggested that we can deal with this in a way other than me returning a car that I don't want to and that they don't want back.
It's not obvious what other fees that they might like to levy and I can't find anything that says that I can't buy another EV (Tesla or otherwise) and not qualify for a SEAI grant again.
But Elon Musk has deeper pockets than I and may wish to play financial chicken with me. We'll see how it goes.
A poster handed back their car on here only a few months back. I can’t think of their username unfortunately but they will be able to tell you the exact figure you loose. Hopefully it’s worth while.
They may decide that anything over 100km is more than needed to assess the car and then seek to apply charges beyond that under the provision to recover up to €900 for the "diminished value of the goods resulting from the handling other than what is necessary to establish the nature, characteristics and functioning of the goods."
Based on how bad the customer service is in general, I wouldn't expect the process to be easy!
The referral credits stop at end of the month. Make your move fast. We all have referral links 😂
They have no such restriction in the order confirmation.
I have contacted them on the next working day after collecting the car so it's not like I've used the car as a free hire to discover Ireland!
I absolutely agree that it won't be easy but nothing ventured, nothing gained!
The extract that you posted above specifies "You are only liable for any diminished value of the goods resulting from the handling other than what is necessary to establish the nature, characteristics and functioning of the goods."
This would generally be taken to imply a limitation on the driving distance beyond a distance needed to assess the car and that contributes to the reduction in value when they want to resell the car. Whether they would use the previously expressed measure of 100km is not clear but I would imagine it's still indicative as to what they will take into account.
Tesla lowered the price of the M3 by 3 grand a day after he collected it.
with the RWD and LR now €38k v €50k (correct me if I’m mistaken), and the range of the new RWD looking far closer to the older battery LR than the official numbers suggest; am I right to say the LR now looks like poor value compared to the efficiency of the RWD plus a few public charges if needed?
Not if you're into the Performance of the LR and the Acceleration boost options and handling characteristics.
All a personal choice over the RWD.
Some people will pay more for it, others who treat cars as A-B boxes wont, same way people will pay more for a 335i over a 320i, an M3 over a 335i etc etc
Even if they did apply a per km charge of 50c per km ( as an example) and I lose €250 over 500kms, it's still a no-brainer.
If I was the next person receiving a car that had (let's say) 750km on the clock, would I pay full retail for it or consider it to be new?
Perhaps I would as long as the €3k discount applied and the full warranty was in place. No issues with handing back so close to the sale, but just trying to "game out" in my head what the next purchaser of the car might be willing to pay....
no, it will go into inventory as CPO and discounted accordingly.
What sort of discount would CPO typically have on the comparable retail price?
No idea to be honest. It could be €3k cheaper or it could be €5k or indeed €1k!
It would have to be significant enough to make it worthwhile.
yeh, I’ve zero interest in the performance improvements - it’s already a 6sec family saloon car.
€12k buys a lot of supercharging if you needed it, and still get probably 85% of the real world range
Once Tesla brought the SR/SR+/RWD battery from 50kWh to 60kWh and especially when they used LRP batteries you can charge to 100% the difference between the two does not justify the price difference WHEN IT COMES TO RANGE.
The LR still wins on AWD, acceleration, acceleration boost, charging speed and audio
Model 3 Performance available now for €61,091 in white. New wheels, new seats and adaptive suspension is nice.
Not sure it’s worth that now that the RWD is €39k. Seal AWD is €51k.
Tough competition this time around.
Nice upgrade from my Fremont M3P but I don’t think it’s worth the financial outlay to upgrade personally……
Just went on the website and was wondering how it was listed cheaper before going up in price. Does not qualify for the grant.
edit: Just on the Tesla website I actually think the new price drop is a mistake as the VRT is wrong on the RWD model.
It is the second time I read the VRT mistake so I looked a bit deeper into the issue.
Based on some combinations on both Model Y and 3 I deduced the VRT reduction to follow the equation
VRT rebate =3100 - 0.31* (OMSP -40k), 40k<OMSP,50k
why this particular slope I don't know but based on this and the OMSP for the cheaper Model 3 is 41,113.22 VRT rebate is 2,754.90 VRT@7% from OMSP = 2,877.93 Subtract the rebate ⇒ VRT payable = 123.03
Unless there is a mistake on the whole website for all combinations I think the 123 amount for the VRT is correct.
Yeah I think Tesla are in some ways shooting themselves in the foot with their pricing and how the features in each model are differentiated. You get a lot of car for the RWD version. Dont get me wrong, I really like the look of the Performance. The subtle external mods plus the frankly insane acceleration for that price range but does it warrant the 23k price difference (~60%), hell no. It’ll be interesting to see if many over here go for it because I think once you get past that 60k mark, they might be looking for a different type of motor
I'm very disappointed they didn't increase the horsepower output of the performance M3. The battery must be at its limit. Performance figures haven't changed.
I'm seeing conflicting horsepower figures on the tesla site. Tesla US says the car has more than 500hp (Marques brownlee quotes 510hp). Tesla Ireland says the car has 460hp… maybe they made a mistake quoting the LR horsepower instead of performance?
yes I seen the differing BHP figures. That should be static across the geographical location I would imagine.
The 3.1 to 100 hasn’t changed from the older model so somethings at the limit alright. Unless they are holding back an acceleration boost or something 🤷
Edit. 0-60mph of 2.9 is deffo quicker. It was 3.1 so must have been 3.3 to 100kmh for the older model.
Will the Seal AWD be your next car given the performance figures hasn't changed? I wonder if BYD will release a performance Seal🤔
It’s certainly a competitor. I said that a few months ago that BYD are not calling the excellence model a “performance” model so they may have something up their sleeve in that regards.
In the CO2 information panel it lists the power as 461kW, I assume in the "unleashed performance" section they forgot to convert it to HP.
remember back in 2019, we saw the M3P as a half price BMW m3, and the SR+ was your 320d (in terms of sales volumes, so to speak). Was the M3P €75k ish back then?
If you look at it through that lens, it’s always going to be a niche low volume model - except now it’s both cheaper and better in every way.
Yes. About €79k is the number on my white 2020 M3P with white interior and EAP.
Edit. Here’s the original pricing on some document in my account. I didn’t buy brand new though.
