Just found the above chart backing up what I have been saying for years.
Global warming is a wholly natural event, if humanity disappeared tonight, global warming would still happen.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
Climate change™ is a massive industry worth billions annually, its bigger than the oil industry, experts will sing the tune they are paid to sing, only when they reach retirement and can't be cancelled will they express dissent from the narrative. Are you worried about climate? well, industry can sell you electric cars, vegetables, insect burgers, solar panels, insurance, mortgages, you name it, you too can ease your climate anxiety by purchasing the approved products. For the really wealthy, they can ease their discomfort by buying coastal property, flying privately or spend their Summers on mega-yachts and it's all OK because their tax efficient foundation funds the same activists who use the scientists to create the models with no demonstrated predictive skill, that they use to lobby politicians in order to create laws that enable unreliable energy, and carbon credit rent seekers, that said billionaires also benefit from. Who pays for all this? We do, to work or live we must consume energy, our cost of living goes up and yet the weather does not get any better or worse despite our efforts.
No I'm saying that thousands of highly paid highly qualified experts are saying something that's happened since the dawn of time is going to continue to happen.
I do not believe in my lifetime or the lifetime of gen x or gen a,b or c is anyone going to see the Earth turn into Mars.
Famine, drought, floods, crop failures. Tell me what is knew about any of that?
It's just modern humanities doomsday. Kids worrying about it because of social media.
It's a giant circle jerk of hysteria imo.
So you're saying that thousands of highly qualified experts who all disagree with you are actually all wrong?
Actually the past is about the only way you can see the effects. And there's been plenty of change in the past and no doubt plenty to come in the future.
Anyone who believes that they're living through anything remotely monumental in the great scheme of things is breathtakingly arrogant imo.
How many times are you going to cut and paste that propeganda from the oil industry ?
Welcome to the past where the effects climate change weren't really understood!
Wish it would hurry up and send a bit of heat our way. Bloody freezing 🥶
Everywhere is warming twice as fast as everywhere else. That headline gets more recycling than plastic bottles at a return bottle bank.
back to that article, how many, many more people died from the effects of cold across Europe last year? or even how many peoples lives are saved by having affordable access to heating across Europe on an annual basis?
The European report focuses this year on the impact of high temperatures on human health, noting that deaths related to heat have risen across the continent. It said more than 150 lives were lost directly last year in connection with storms, floods and wildfires.
How many more people do you want killed because they cannot afford the cost of energy and food needed to sustain their lives? There is a reason the Irish government, took action to offset the cost burden of electricity prices due to a surge caused in 2021 by an extended cold Spring in Europe that consumed more gas, combined with a wind drought that consumed more gas, combined with a surge in demand for gas in advance of Winter than pushed up prices to record highs leading to surge in electricity prices. Weather dependent electricity generation is unreliable, cannot guarantee delivery and it's not cheap either, that's why "demand management" happens in the background as today heavy industrial consumers are forced off the grid on a regular basis in this country to their own generation facilities.
Energy is not an input into the economy, IT IS THE ECONOMY. Humanity organizes its economic activities to ensure a steady growth in the extraction and exploitation of primary energy because energy is life, standards of living are defined by how much energy is available to be exploited, and all humans everywhere are perpetually seeking a higher standard of living. source
European leaders have set the continent on a trajectory that can only result in economic and social disadvantage for most of the people they currently govern. What are these ejiits doing?
The electorate has been gradually waking up to the damage these ejiits are causing and no amount of weather propaganda headlines can mask this. The 2030 targets re being dumped, it's already happening and it will accelerate, it must.
TBF the apnews article was about continents. What I realized later, where was Antarctica in that report? I thought it was seriously heating up, too.
So I believe. So much of the fruit and veg we eat comes from Spain too so hopefully they can find ways around the drought.
Bad news for Ireland too. Only this past few days have the majority of cereals started being planted
The arctic has been heavily under reported and under represented in global warming trends. It is experiencing 5x the warming that the rest of the world is and that significant because it fairly much drives much of the North Atlantics weather.
Wow how clever but I don't think anyone ever said dealing with rubbish better would reduce the planet's temperature
Lol so you're saying the rest of the world would have similar reports of warming if they actually monitored it?
Anyway it's bad news for crops in Europe, its already having big impacts in Spain with drought and crop failures.
Uhh, so what? Some other continent might be under-reporting means… somewhere else is worse than is being measured in Europe.
I imagine Europe is probably the continent with the most temperature monitoring also
Quelle surprise
Continental Europe is the fastest warming continent, 2x the global rate. Going to be a hot summer.
https://apnews.com/article/copernicus-heat-climate-europe-world-meteorological-organization-d08b3bd028bc461f281f39828bd73056
If you think those who "belief" Greta as a metric of anything - your not interested in the actual science.
How many do you think? And, if you're interested in a scientific discussion, back up your projection on how many you think with some data.
Also, what's with the weird capitalizations? Is English your second language?
I don't think using a boat is the gotcha you think it is. She also wears clothes and breaths oxygen.
I find it so funny that so many people follow the faked information and not the Actual Scientific Historical Record.
Remember how the Media panicked about El Nino, then 3 months later they found it works in a 7 year Cycle?
How many people have Truly been influenced by the likes of Greta Thunberg and her families Double Standards?
They didn't want to fly to the US because of emissions, so they sailed in a boat made from plastic and aluminium, how very Bio-Degradable those materials are!!
yeah, we've specialised in beef and dairy because we're better at it than most other countries; but this also does not mean that it's the most efficient use of land.
peas and beans, for example, are not as nutritionally as dense as beef, but the yield per hectare is over 10x, in terms of weight. obviously there are many differences nutritionally between them, but a bare calorific value can be calculated as:
average beef output per hectare; 445kg x 2,500 calories = 1.1m calories.
average pea and bean output per Ha - 6000kg x 800 = 4.8m calories (and there's a big condition there; as i don't know the balance between peas and beans grown in ireland, i've gone for the peas figure for calories. beans seem much more variable in terms of calories depending on the variety).
I think one can do fine on meat, brassicas, turnips, potatoes, if the choice is starving. Grains might be a challenge, but as was stated above oats grow readily. "It's the economy, stupid" applies to food more than anything. Probably won't be much fish left given the AMOC failing and that'll make it, overall, colder.
Of course, there's that pesky population problem - millions to feed and the population isn't dropping.
I don't know about that. Certainly some kids were told to head off, but some were kept at home to farm the land.
Paranoid? What's paranoid about it. If you grow grains from seed grain you've kept from the previous harvest, it's very difficult to sell the subsequent crops on as the seed isn't certified. We used to grow the flour we needed in the not too distant past. We can do it again. We import spuds but grow a huge amount of it. For example, nearly all the Dunnes Stores own brand are grown by a farm located in Meath
I'd imagine if there was a shortage of food then we'd quite happily eat whatever we could produce. The wealthy will still get stuff flown in via Amazon, from what's left of the Amazon. And the Irish Times will write about how tragic it all is, when the poor are trying to shoot down your drone delivery. Short little pieces in between the property sections. 😆
Historically the main grains we ever grew were oats and barley. Oats were highly successful and those areas local to me in the west which grew oats had significantly better survival rates in the famine times. Oats would be a staple if we attempted some form of self sufficiency so it would mean a radical change in our diet to something like the historical Scottish highlands diet.
Its not going to happen - and why would we want it to happen.
Would you stop with the paranoid nonsense? If you want wheat flour of a certain quality then you simply won't grow it here.
Pretty much the same reason why we import a load of spuds too!
Its very on topic really - what the sort of tillage agriculture is most dependent on is a stable climate so that predictable planning can be carried out. Climate change has already shown itself to be highly disruptive of Irish climate with a very high probability (based on modelling) of it getting considerably more unpredictable.
An equally important aspect to this is that the peasant economy which you describe (the sort of economy my grandparents lived in) is very hard work and highly skilled in a practical sort of way. All that generation actively encouraged all of their children to leave the land to avoid the low income hard work it represented. Once that skill set is lost its very difficult to relearn and all evidence points to people who leave the land almost never return to it.
It would, and did grow it. But seed companies have the market there and none of the required seeds are licensed here. There's even a big push on to stop farmers holding grains back to use for next seasons seeds
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