Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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Had she a torch in the house? The killer could have turned the lights off and it was a full moon so easy enough to see about..
Were all the gate issues resolved once she put up the gates to her own property then? Something took her down to the gate that morning (had it been night a light would have been left on in the house and she probably would have taken a torch with her).
The thing is, the gate in the lane was a common gate for all 3 properties, it was not Sophie's gate. It might have bothered her in the past if someone left it open, but in the year or two before the murder she had put up two gates, one into her lawn from the lane, and one at the back wall of her house near her back door. There was also a fence by the Eastern gable of her house at the boundary with Richardson's property. She actually parked her car on Richardson's land. She should have had no issue with visitors to the other houses using the common gate in the lane.
(Sophie's gates/ fences in red, green gate is common gate in the lane).
Thanks. I hadn’t thought about the case for a few weeks and it’s funny how you come back to things. Was Sophie sitting at the table after breakfast and saw someone leave without closing the gate? Or had it been left open for someone to drive in? Maybe she went down to close it? I wonder if those interviewed who were in the vicinity of the cottage on Sunday were asked about the gate.
I don't think that the case could ever be solved.
It's just a basis for film producers and writers to make money.
There will be many theories coming up but none has any proof.
People will talk and the story continues…..
I just hope that whatever is in the file submitted to the DPP is a balanced view and not trying to fit a square peg into a round hole like they’ve done previously.
They need to be totally honest in their assessment of Bailey this time around. Absolutely there’s some evidence pointing in Baileys direction- no doubt about that- but using modern policing analysis, they need to provide a clear view on what the data is now saying them.
If it’s more boloxolgy like their last DPP files then I’ve very little faith that the Gardai are willing to admit mistakes - but there’s some hope in that the cold case review team for Annie McCarrick have done a U turn away from Jonny Foxes pub- that in itself shows brave and independent thinking
Leo Bolger came to check his horses on Sunday afternoon and visited Alfie for a drink. The postman delivered to the Alfie’s postbox around 6:30, but he wouldn’t need to go through the gate.
Edit:
Sophie herself would have come in the gate around 5 or 6 pm.
Who was the last confirmed person out the gate before Sophie was found?
I guess it will run for a bit yet..
'The deaths of key figures in the original investigation into the murder of Sophie Toscan du Plantier are among the major issues facing the garda cold case review team.
After the passing of Ian Bailey on Sunday afternoon — the key suspect in the 1996 killing — gardaí have stressed that the probe will continue.
Sources said the credibility of the cold case review process has to be protected by ensuring that reviews continue “until they get to their own logical conclusion”.
Another source said: “It would make a mockery of what the cold case was supposed to do in the first place by not continuing.”
The twelfth of Never.
Does anyone know when we can expect the results of this case review?
“His interpretations are based on the Marie Farrell testimony,” he added. Mr Gazeau said the “testimony” Ms Farrell had provided had already been “changed” and thus he did not credit it."
But he is quite happy to accept Farrell's testimony when used to convict Bailey?
“Like a lot of people who got too close to the case, it’s difficult to maintain a balanced view.”
Yes indeed Mr Gazeau, take a long look in the mirror.
"Mr Gazeau said he and his family ensured “balance” was at the fore of the 2021 Netflix true-crime series, A Murder in West Cork – a creation by John Downer and made with the support of Sophie’s loved ones. Mr Gazeau was a producer on the documentary and thus had a huge input into the work."
That statement is comedy gold, of course it had "balance" Mr Gazeau… 😅
Ian Bailey trending on Google again... must be due to the Jim Sheridan article.
Sophie's cousin, Frederic Gazeau, remains unconvinced of Sheridan's new documentary and mentions that Sheridan's theory relates to a Frenchman as per Marie Farrell's claims…
A more intriguing idea would be, will he propose an alternative theory for who DID commit the crime?
The closer I examine the evidence available to me, the less likely it seems that it was Bailey; but it doesn't particularly reveal the identity of the real culprit.
It's in his financial interest to keep talk of the late Ian Bailey being stitched up going.
Seems that the director is convinced of Bailey's innocence..
https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/famous-irish-filmmaker-vows-clear-29034183
I've read the report by Dr Harbison with close interest.
My lord, that poor lady was battered horribly, God rest her.
Looking for any hint of information that might suggest time of death; and there's really only 2 things.
First, the food found in the stomach, which he says was "recently ingested".
and the other thing is the degree of rigor mortis.
And these would be the main two aspects that help any pathologist to estimate the time of death.
And in this case, both aspects are a little problematical!
@chooseusername Ah thank you! Very much obliged.
Harbison's report was linked here before, but here it is again,
https://www.reddit.com/r/DunmanusFiles/comments/1as8qk9/post_mortem_report/
Is the autopsy report a matter of public record? I don't recall ever reading it in detail - only references to it.
I imagine it must have been submitted at the inquest. The inquest took place on April 17th, 1997, according to The Irish Sun.
(Not the most respectable source, I know)
Their timeline also mentions that " A French magistrate orders the exhumation of Sophie’s body for a post-mortem and forensic examination. " We have to wonder who conducted this, did they write a report, and what were their findings?
Probably not much, and no different from the original examination, but it would be interesting at this stage to read and compare the two reports.
Especially, I think, regarding the position in which the deceased was found.
Yes, she was gracious enough not to criticise him, and didn't dwell on the Sophie murder investigation too much.
It was more what she didn't say about his work methods.
I saw it aswell, if anything it showed just how out of touch Harbison was at the time in terms of his organizing & familiarity with more modern gruesome murders.
Dr. Cassidy’s Casebook on after the news.
Marie Cassidy was made deputy to John Harbison shortly after Sophie’s murder. She replaced him as State Pathologist when he retired. She was not involved in Sophie’s case.
He, the local peeping Tom, has been dead a couple of years now, so discussing him shouldn't be a problem.
Maybe there's another reason @bjsc has gone quiet.
Any luck?
Actually I do have his statement!!!! I'll dig it out.
@bjsc, going back to this, if I may. He was the local 'peeping Tom' with no alibi for that night, is there any statements from him in your files? Unlikely I suppose if they steered the inquiry away from Bailey.
This is very true. I confronted a burglar trying to break in to my house once. I was lucky and they ran away but it could have turned out much worse for me, never in my life would I have thought I would have done such a thing and I suppose it just goes to show you don’t know how you act until you’re in such a situation.
I take your point “it’s hard to know” 100%-indeed, and I hope both you and I never do learn to “know”
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