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Protest outside Roderick O' Gormans home - read OP before posting

[Deleted User]

Alternative title: Masked nutjobs besiege Roderick O' Gormans home

Deserving of it's own thread I think*

A bunch of Dublin's finest wearing balaclavas went to ROG's house and hung up signs going on about an 'invasion' and 'plantation', there is a video on the reddit thread below.

Coming a few weeks after a Croatian man was beaten to death by far-right racist thugs, I'm amazed the guards just stood by here and watched.

It's one thing to demonstrate against a politician when you are unhappy with them, but that's a far cry from the obvious physical intimidation that was going on here.

Are we heading towards a repeat of the Jo Cox murder here?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/1c7rrz8/masked_men_hang_banners_on_roderic_ogormans_house/

*Note: These kind of events and the implied intimidation of political figures have implications for politics in Ireland that go beyond immigration imo

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This thread is about the protests outside O'Gorman's home. It is not about his electability, and to answer a question earlier in the thread it most certainly is not about immigration.

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TokTik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122039748#Comment_122039748

Not a single one

Sudden Valley

The performance of the TD has nothing to do whether a mob should be allowed intimidate him at home. But yet we still have posters here using this act as an opportunity to attack his politics.

cute geoge

Why are any people that protest against grotesque government policy called far right .It is there not a democratic right to protest .Like the labour party members came on Tv3 and accused the independents of being far right because they questioned government policy on immagration .

MFPM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122042766#Comment_122042766

There are working class communities who've witnessed their communities suffer from under investment, housing shortages etc and they are angry and frustrated, elements of the far right have sought to exploit that anger pointing the finger at migrants. It's a play book we've seen before. The irony is that the none of these people leading the protests have been campaigning for their communities. Gavin Pepper in Finglas for example has never done anything for the people of Finglas, he's a loud mouth bigot blaming migrants for issues they're not responsible for.

cute geoge

I work with migrants every day and some are the finest but as many more are welfare migrants who never intend to do a days work and will receive free housing to disadvantage the working migrants and our own young people by driving up housing rent and prices.This is the crux of the problem laid bare and simple

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122043348#Comment_122043348

Thanks teacher ,I never got the opportunites that are afforded to school goers nowadays and for 33 years worked my way from the bottom up .Up at 5 am most days still but it sickens my hole to see the cesspit this country ids being turned into by your truly!!

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122040981#Comment_122040981

Coppinger has about as much chance of being elected as winning the lotto.

PBP in for a roasting in the election.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122040846#Comment_122040846

Is that all it's about? I thought there was a little discussion too of what constitutes fair protest and what's the meaning of democracy etc.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122043892#Comment_122043892

"I work with migrants every day and some are the finest but as many more are welfare migrants who never intend to do a days work and will receive free housing to disadvantage the working migrants and our own young people by driving up housing rent and prices. This is the crux of the problem laid bare and simple."

Say this loud and clear as there's a good few posters on this site who are inclined to ignore the 'bad with the good' bit.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122042766#Comment_122042766

Standing outside a persons home with abusive signs and wearing masks isnt a democratic protest while blocking the passage of said persons neighbours isnt democratic and isnt legitimate protest. Its intimidation.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122043775#Comment_122043775

Indeed. There are lack of facilities; schools, GPs, public transport. There was no protests about all the underinvestment until migrants came in.

nachouser

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Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041261#Comment_122041261

Just to be clear.

House owned by person A.

Person B arrives, and throws banners / posters, etc. onto the external walls, gates of the house owned by person A.

That is not a crime, okay.

Therefore, can person C arrive, and take the posters/banners down, and that not be a crime?

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044348#Comment_122044348

We're a reasonably tough nation of people, who tend to just crack on with things if we can.

The fact you are starting to see more and more of these frustrated people protesting, would be a very good sign that things have gotten a lot worse in the country. And when you know the problem is not organic in nature, but rather caused by bad and deliberate government policies, this engenders quite a lot of anger among people.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122045000#Comment_122045000

The thing is, I'd be pretty confident that this very same lot are the same people who have gone library to library to protest LGBT books. They just wanna cause trouble and any subject matter doesn't match their basic ideals results in it.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122045000#Comment_122045000

Yeah. You ignored the point I made that many people didn't start protesting about lack of facilities until they could blame refugees and migrants about it.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044340#Comment_122044340

Agreed.

It wasn't right when Paul Murphys socialist goon squad barricaded Joan Burton in her car in Jobstown either.

The idea that the far right have a monopoly on unsavoury acts of protest isn't borne out by the facts.

As always we need more moderate voices and less attention should be given to anyone else.

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122045160#Comment_122045160

there were moderate voices, but then the media and those in power decided to call anyone who raised questions about immigration far right and racists.

The rise in protests is as a direct result of government policy and the longer they refuse to listen to regular people the more they will alienate them.

slay55

I’m indifferent towards this

I would certainly not participate or encourage it.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122045160#Comment_122045160

I never claimed it was right. Paul Murphys actions were disgusting then and disgusting now. But let's not pretend that far right actions actions haven't grown exponentially in your usual attempts to deflect.

Annasopra

https://twitter.com/EamonnVIDF/status/1781282440532709587?t=eONpK2j3cE_fYsqUV4lKJA&s=19

Interesting to note the group behind the ROG protest and who is involved in that group

Icepick

https://www.boards.ie/profile/679776/cute%20geoge

Source for many more?

Your anecdotal feelings are not a reliable source.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122045115#Comment_122045115

Excuse me, but there have been local people protesting about closure of regional hospitals and schools and so on for long before these times. What rock have you appeared out from under?

eggy81

Didn’t count when you couldn’t label them as far right.

1800_Ladladlad

There has been an awful lot of people making a lot of fuss without asking the relevant questions. Do you not think its suspicious that his armed Garda detail apparently sat and watched on while an alleged 'group of masked male protesters' erected protest banners outside his home? When compared to what happened in Newtown Mount Kennedy during the week when an elderly man was hauled away and man hand on the ground by the Gardai thugs for hanging onto a wooden pallet. These examples are endless. The fact Gardaí said they maintained a presence until the group dispersed, later confirming no arrests were made. It was either staged or those people were not breaking the law. Attack on democracy this. Attack on democracy that. That's all we are hearing but in any other functioning democracy, police would have stepped in and removed at least the banners. The people would have been detained, questioned, unmasked and/or arrested under public order but no. The Government needs a timely distraction to manipulate public opinion when its' failing immigration/integration policy is questioned by the voters. It was only last 2 weeks ago Newstalk reporter Paul Connelly went undercover with an award-winning BBC documentary maker, Darragh Adelaide of People Before Profit, and Antifa members dressed up pretending to be ‘the far right’ attempting to cause sh*te to provoke a reaction. This is not the first time they've done this.

So as far as I can see the only person to gain from this bullsh*t is the O’Gorman himself who was under enormous pressure this week for misleading and lying to the people during the referendum campaign, all to distract from the referendum’s failure as well as the extremely democratic EU Migration Pact, just as the riots in Dublin City allowed the government and the media to deflect attention away from children getting stabbed. And then for it all to lead to the Green Party’s conference where O’Gorman gets to invoke victim status and be stunning and brave. It's all rather convenient. There's an awful lot of hysterics and hypocrisy of course…

Minister Humphreys says intimidation of politicians ‘An attack on our democracy’. ‘Do you know what youse boys do? **** off and leave me alone’: she tells two journalists when asked about her derelict flats. She’s well able to handle herself. I can't see her being attacked.

https://www.pbp.ie/people-before-profit-protest-outside-the-minister-for-justice-home/ https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wicklow/bray-news/sinn-fein-stage-protest-at-minister-roches-home/27639114.html

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122046673#Comment_122046673

i witnessed first hand what happened on Monday in Newtown. I posted my observations, (which has now disappeared) and was mocked in Post #228 with 26 likes. This Country is full of people who would rather run down their own than give critical thought to how those in power are failing us.

I don't condone what happened outside ROG home, but what happened here in Newtown over last weekend and into Monday, I can totally understand why people could be driven to that.

nachouser

There's no reasonable case to protest outside anyone's house wearing masks and putting up banners denoucing that person.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122045557#Comment_122045557

Pointing out that all flavours of extremism result in bad outcomes is deflection?

[Deleted User]

Did you ever get to find that invitation @Geuze ?

Hangdogroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122038905#Comment_122038905

Cut the B.S. You know full well who they were.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122047944#Comment_122047944

It's whataboutery and an attempt to deflect from far right intimidation.