2 years and some $300 billion later, the hopium is running thin…
The west has tried throwing money at this and failed miserably. The only thing left now, is human capital. Ukraine needs more bodies to sacrifice. Otherwise it'll be game over pretty soon.
By that reasoning, you're not counting the russians as human given they are dying at a vastly higher rate.
Is a russian life worth so little to you?
How many more russians should die pursuing this?
Do you think westerners will sign up en masse to fight and die for this cause? A cause they claim to believe so much in?
That's where it's naturally going now. Russia has successfully sucked the west into another disastrous un-winnable war. It's total commitment now, or bust.
Some hysterical numbers are thrown about regarding dead Russian soldiers, here some statistics from a reliable source, very minimum 50k:
I don't get it, the experts predicted Russia was falling to pieces?
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68823399
Why do you want so many russians to die? 0 NATO deaths so far and not rising, russia successfully de-fanged itself and now impotent on the world stage.
Imagine how well they could be doing if they didn't waste astronomical amounts of resources on senseless wars, or weren't a mafia state.
It's the domestic war machine that's triggering the growth rather than external factors. So long term that is unlikely to keep their economy going for more than a few years. Meanwhile they're actually struggling to fill jobs cause they're killing off half the population.
Also just to point out, it's all internal money triggering this growth. So the states cash reserves are just disappearing into a war machine. It's pretty unsustainable.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/04/16/imf-raises-russias-growth-forecast-for-2024-a84861
it’s a war time economy, that type of growth is hollow.
So the experts are correct ?
Absolutely but it's not sustainable and has no long term benefits. Eg if the US invested a load in infrastructural improvements, you'd see the exact same thing. However that would be a long term benefit in the sense you'd have infrastructure at the end of it.
In this case, all the investment is to cover huge losses in Ukraine. The new equipment will also be lost and the state cash reserve will dwindle so they can't keep doing it for more than a few years. Meanwhile they've lost a substantial proportion of their working population and have nothing to show for it. Economically it doesn't become a win for Russia.
Putin’s plan went to 💩
He is spamming me too, must be approaching performance review time at the Trollstoy factory east of Urals
I've contacted a mod anyway
Have the number of drone attacks (specifically on oil refineries) slowed down in the last week or two? I thought the production and quality would be ramping up.
Russia is happy to fire missiles at Ukraine for years, so Ukraine does need something to make Russia feel the effects of war.
Once again, an assertion seemingly based on no experience or evidence. Ukraine made its most effective gains in this war when it was provided with the hardware needed which allowed its smarter military leaders to execute their plans. It has relied on virtually zero foreign mercenary assistance on the ground. It sent the full force of the Russian army packing from the capital without resorting to throwing bodies into the meatgrinder. The only time it has lost significant numbers of men has been when it has had to adopt a full rear-guard action trying to defend strategic positions. Which has come about purely as a result of being starved of equipment.
This comment could be easily applied to certain other nations…
The Russian military industrial complex is in full swing now. $300 billion of western aid/arms, and the Russians are still standing strong. It doesn't do their reputation any harm as a weapons producer among the Brics nations etc, who are not swallowing the western propaganda on this conflict of course.
Can you clarify, do you think Russia are pursuing a genocidal agenda in Ukraine?
In relation to the military industrial complex, it's state money that is disappearing into resources that have no long term benefit. On top of that, huge shortages of workers due to them dying in the war... Long term you can't run an economy on the war you're running.
"In Congress they're seemingly much less popular on the aid front than Israel. Despite Russia being the more clear and present danger to the western world"
And the great probability is that Russia/ Iran were also behind the Hamas attack on Israel and that Russia is also liaising with Iran as to how they should act. It's been a successful tactic by Putin and his administration to push the buttons of the US, UK and Germany and to take attention off the needs of Ukraine.
Can the west adopt any similar tactic? Start a revolution in one of his supporting ex USSR states for example?
Good grief Russia is up the creek its economy is on the brink the population is in sharp decline and within 10 years Russia will have broken up into a number of mini states. Sovit style collapse all over again. Its inevitable. Even China want to be friendly with the west more so than Russia. I even wager North Korea and Iran regret sending what weapons they had to Russia. In short no mater what pro Russia posters say here and elsewhere the truth has a tendency to keep showing up.
Guys, IMF figures are … wait for it… put down your coffee cups.. self reported by Russia
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If your initial reaction was an image in your head of a gaggle of suited IMF accountants arriving at the Kremlin for a routine yearly audit of the books, that’s not what happens
Attack on Russian airfield, Crimea.
The Biden Whitehouse has asked Ukraine to stop attacking the Russian oil refineries. Inexplicable really.
Russians continue to advance near Chasiv Yar and north and west of Avdiivka as Ukrainians have crippling weapons and shell shortages.
If this keeps up through the summer they will lose significant territory. If Israel situation continues to escalate there's little hope of US giving any aid to Ukraine
https://deepstatemap.live/en#12/48.2226/37.6306
He is trying very hard and failing to paint the Russians as cuddly teddy bears who were forced (forced I tell ya) to invade to save them subhuman Ukrainians from corrupt western influences and stray from the one true path of oligarchic (oilgarchic?) criminality
meanwhile on Russian prime time tv they are very clear about what they are planning to do with the Ukrainian population
Mask slipping further, Westerns are "they" and not "we".
Russian growth is bogus, it is based on the Kremlin's reported numbers.
Seems like yet more hopium.
Sure, maybe we should wait and see if Russia suffers any major food or fuel crisis, or I don't know maybe if 1,000's of people are sleeping rough in tents on the streets of major cities. You're right, the truth does have a nasty way of showing up… lets hold our collective breath and see what happens. The reality is, our sanctions have failed to have the desired effect. Our billions of $ in aid/weapons has failed to have the requisite effect.
Russia are proving to be far more robust than the western propaganda spin doctors want you to know.
For a guy who says he's not pushing the Russian line, it's a bit odd how you won't clarify on the genocide aspect. Instead it's constant praise for Russia...
for all the times they insist sanctions are not working they sure seem to have a strange preoccupation with sanctions which won’t be dropped unless Ukraine wins, and them hundreds of billions that were seized.
If sanctions are not working the western world won’t just go “huh we should just drop them so” instead they will continue to mount and be tightened like Biden’s December offensive against banks in Turkey, UAE and China who basically had to chose between doing business with either Russia or rest of world or face consequences. Or the shipping companies refusing to do with anything remotely Russia related, and so on.
Tl.dr: Ever tighter sanctions are needed as the Kremlin cretin are squeaking about them louder and louder
Edit: speaking of sanctions
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