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You can never rule out anybody moving to the sportswashing tour but so far anybody that goes there is no longer heard of outside of the majors.
For me they are pariahs with no respect for lots of people. I can't go any further than that here.
I don't think Rory will ever go there.
that’s laughable.
Yes. Reporting that someone else has reported it. They don't have any other sources etc.
Everything they mentioned they were just quoting the other outlet.
I don't think Phil is anymore iconic than Rory, both generational players.
sorry in my opinion he will be going to LiV. His softened stance was the start of it.
I don’t know why he was getting so exercised with Liv in the first place.
So professional golfers go after bigger money shocker. Who’d have guessed?
He lost friendships with the holier than thou stance he initially adopted. Then he softened his stance when the merger was proposed but sought to make sure he would be on corresponding money.
Now he might jump ship entirely. He’s making a bit of a knob of himself.
Zero evidence to support the opinion he will be going to LIV.
he will be going to Liv. His softened stance was the start.
He's not going to LIV. Rorys manager has described it as fake news.
Considering everything he has said, it is a crazy story.
well in fairness , he is probably going to Liv , it ain’t some crazy story. Even the figure isn’t particularly crazy if Rahmbo got over 500m.
So what are they doing? Reporting that it's been reported?
They're not reporting it. They're only quoting the original news outlet that did report it first.
Jesus a website puts out a bit of clickbait and all other news companys jump on it! Poor journalism these days! Rory is playing for legacy! Him and Tiger are probably the richest in the sport always were apart from some of the LIV guys now..
If Rory wins the Masters he surpasses Phil. He only needs one more but that specific one. Otherwise, I'd agree with you (albeit, he'd only need 3 to beat Phil).
I said at the very least he needs to equal Phil's majors which is two more and I feel because Phil was/is such an iconic player he would need to surpass him to be considered "greater" and that for me would be 8 majors, nothing odd about that in my mind anyway.
PGA Tour events are currently greatly diminished, you can choose to believe otherwise, there's been plenty of mental gymnastics to airbrush the guys that have gone to LIV but it just doesn't hold up to scrutiny imo.
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Tiger only has one goal, to beat Jack's 18, he could not care less about ranking or money or other wins, it's all about beating Jack, he has said the same himself many times over, on the Sam Snead he made a small comment but moved on quickly.
He fancies himself for more Masters I reckon and maybe The Open to catch and pass Jack
we all know tiger tied sam sneads record and jack is in third place, all the greats follow this
The majors things is hype just like all the masters tradition is just hype
You can be well sure that records mean as much to tiger as the majors one as does being world number 1 for 10 years, and he tied the record with that last masters win, its why he kept playing through all the pain
its what is used in the argument over who is best
And you believed him?
Hold on. Monty has won 3 senior majors which he ranks on a par with the real majors.. just sayin... as Monty would say himself.. all credit to senior majors.. very much so…
they are quoting the same source, City AM.
They're all quoting the same source, City AM. Which probably isn't the most reliable
Ah, when his career is over it will boil down to Major wins, someone mentions Monty and no one remembers his order of merit dominance (maybe his RC records) just he never won a Major. If Rors does not win more he will be in the same comment of just not having won anywhere near his share of Majors (perhaps like Norman ironically).
I have no clue how many PGA events Jack won but everyone will know his 18 Major haul and that is the mark of a great.
You can't just decide to devalue PGA wins to suit your argument. If we're playing that game, Phil was against weaker fields. It's widely accepted the talent is much deeper now.
Rory also has 9 European Tour wins and an Australian Open.
The Tiger argument is also a bit moot in my opinion. Phil had 21 years from turning pro to winning the Open. We'll call them his prime years. That's 84 majors, Tiger won 14 of them. Phil only came 2nd to Tiger once, I think. So 70 other majors Tiger didn't win.
All of this is to say that I believe their careers could be seen as quite similar, assuming Rory continues to win a couple of events each year for the next 10 years. If he doesn't win any more majors then the comparison obviously doesn't hold. But to say he needs double the majors is odd.
I'd say there could be a big shake up if this happens, either 4 day events or a cut to open up Ranking points and then it's game over
Personally I think he should hold out for a billion!
there's not a person on here would turn down 850 euro not mind 850 million to do a hell of a lot worse than play golf
I think its fair game after the way he was sacrificed by Monahan. I wouldn't hold it against him for moving after the way the PGA leadership treated him. He doesn't owe anybody anything.
Like I said a curiosity and it'll remain one until he wins in that span.
Hmmm, he has a way to go to surpass Phil in my opinion.
Obviously at 24 years old he was a certainty to, but things have changed and I'm one of those who still believes he'll win more majors, but that confidence recedes with every major that passes at this stage in his career.
I think he needs to win more majors than Phil to surpass him and maybe even two more if it doesn't include the Masters.
Phil has been way closer to the career grand slam than Rory with a scarcely believable 6 runners up in the US Open. The only guys who really understand what Rory goes through at the Masters are probably Greg and Phil.
Phil didn't win his first major until a few months prior to Rory's current age, so it's highly unlikely for Rory to be as good as Phil in the second phase of their careers although Rory was better during the first phase.
Phil currently has double Rory's PGA Tour wins 48 vs 24, and every one Rory wins from here have been severely devalued. Pretty much Phil's entire peak was up against a prime Tiger which undeniably lowered Phil's major count. He won a major in his 50s, which again is just astounding!
They both have parts of their game that will hold up in all-time conversations - Rory's driving, woods, long irons and Phil's magical short-game.
For me Rory would need the career grand slam and at least 6 majors to surpass Phil and even then it's close.
For there to be no doubt he'd have to double his major count and win the career grand slam and I still hold out hope of one last run from Phil at the Open, (US that is, but I believe they refer to it as the 'Open' in the US!), however unlikely that now is.
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