Following on from main thread in Current Affairs about Tubs in general (now closed and mod suggestion that Entertainment category is more suitable).
Indeed, entertainment in certain respects is what Tubs has provided, albeit perhaps in a way not intended. And still awaiting 150k payback to the licence fee holder.
And of course, his new career in Virgin Radio which is imminent.
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It would be necessary to rely upon the podcast providers for the statistics. The real danger for Turbridy is a fragmentation of the audience across platforms. Youtube might have some more accessible statistics. It is always possible to manipulate a system. On systems that don't require a creditcard or user verification, the use of multiple sims for mobile Internet access would be one method (a click farm) but that would be obvious to platforms through analysing the logs. It is quite different to using meatbots (a term for online influencers) to make it look like there is an audience.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_farm
The podcast idea looks like an attempt to package Tubridy's LLS/RTE/VR show style into a new-ish medium. The problem is that his target demographics aren't exactly the younger demographics that listen to podcasts more than radio. Some of his more connected fans will listen. However, Tubridy will be completely reliant upon the quality of guests.
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His "loyal" followers are the women of social media/instagram, who have recently been wetting themselves congratulating him on his new gig. The problem for Tubs, perhaps, is that it's likely only a small proportion of such mammy fans will have any real interest in listening to endless interviews about books, and books, and books etc. Perhaps I'm wrong.
It is simply a highly formatted show for Tubridy complete with the usual misery porn slot. A sort of mini LLS.
He still has a big following on the Radio Forum, despite him not being on RTE any more. Much stronger than Pat Kenny, and probably only exceeded by Joe Duffy.
The small set of those fans who might be more proficient at Internet access may also have Kindle readers or apps. That's an obvious monetisation route for a podcast but Easons doesn't have such a closed loop. It depends on selling print editions.
There's also a timing issue. A radio in the background at a specific time of day is one thing. Going off and downloading or listening to a podcast is different. It puts the audience in control and requires the audience to take some actions beyond having a radio on in the background. Will all those Tubridy fans convert to a podcast audience? No.
Tubridy will have to grow the podcast's audience and make it important enough for a celebrity to appear on it. That requires publicity and promotion.
Ah I'm just happy that the state of the art recording studio is finally going to get used for the big podcast.
The Indo has reviewed the first episode of Tubridy's podcasts:
https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/the-bookshelf-with-ryan-tubridy-podcast-review-just-one-problem-it-doesnt-sound-like-tubs-has-read-the-books/a181699271.html
It is paywalled.
I had to lookup who David Walliams was, I suppose I am not in Tubbs target audience.
Will this be a all round year weekly podcast, or a short 'Session' of a dozen odd episodes? I assume the latter.
Think it is a series of weekly podcasts with a limited number in the first series.
As predicted. Only Tubs has the neck to try and run a podcast discussing books without actually reading any of the books.
Is he recording the “big podcast” in dublin or london?
It indicates a lack of preparation. The Indo's review seems to be a critical one and some of the other newspapers have rather fluffy reviews. It doesn't seem like he's the next Joe Rogan.
To be fair, this isn’t ’Ryan Reads Books’. It’s all about the guest and their choices.
To be fair, he/his agent has been concocting this LURVE of books for decades. As with his broadcasting career, Ryan/NKM have felt that he only needs to say something for it to manifest itself, without having to do any legwork. Cosseted by Dee Forbes and RTE, there were plenty who felt that the emperor has no clothes when he was in D4, but just how fake the persona he is being confirmed each week, since he left.
Listening to this here and the enjoyment Walliams (let's not mention the unpleasantness surrounding him) has for books/reading. It's what Ryan would love to have but wont work hard enough for.
One quote from the Indo article says it all, really
The worst moment came when Tubridy asked Walliams what, in the event of him writing his autobiography, the book would be called. Walliams replied that he had written an autobiography. (It was called ‘Camp David’, which is a good title. It was published in October 2012 by Michael Joseph. God Almighty, is there no researcher?)Walliams gently said that he’d like to write a memoir about being a father which he would entitle ‘With You’. He saved it. Just.
The worst moment came when Tubridy asked Walliams what, in the event of him writing his autobiography, the book would be called. Walliams replied that he had written an autobiography. (It was called ‘Camp David’, which is a good title. It was published in October 2012 by Michael Joseph. God Almighty, is there no researcher?)
Walliams gently said that he’d like to write a memoir about being a father which he would entitle ‘With You’. He saved it. Just.
Walliams has written a lot of books which have sold 37 million copies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Walliams_bibliography
Apparently Tubridy asked him what the name of his autobiography would be and Walliams pointed out that he had written an autobiography in 2012. Seems that Tubridy was out-namedropped too.
That's embarrassing for Tubs.
Then again, preparation was never his strong point.
I read Dan Brown's Da Vince The Da Vinci Code. It was the first time I saw how a bad writter can trick you into thinking they've created something good, went on to read on other book only to discover that it was large the same tempo, plot and set piece but with a different hook, I stopped half way through that one.
Well he's got a bad review from the indo today, sounds like someone on here wrote it!
He had a team of researchers in RTE that made him look good. This seems to be more the real Tubridy rather than the RTE Tubridy.
Behold;
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Asking who Philip Larkin was, not really a highlight either.
The review in the Irish Times takes a different view - the reviewer thinks this is where tubs needs to be, and she says she'll listen to more.
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio/review/2024/04/16/the-bookshelf-ryan-tubridy-kicks-off-his-podcast-with-the-curiously-dressed-david-walliams/
So much for Tubridy's literary credibility.
I can't see his podcast vehicle gaining traction if he doesn't do the most basic research on what his interviewees have published.
It's also on Castbox (I haven't subscribed). The typically modest description is:
"On ‘The Bookshelf with Ryan Tubridy’, the renowned broadcaster, author and book lover sits down with household names to discover the books that have influenced their lives.
Every week, Ryan will turn the pages of their life through the prism of three books: The childhood book, the book that made them cry, and the book that changed their life.
‘The Bookshelf with Ryan Tubridy’ is brought to you by Eason – Ireland’s favourite bookseller."
Anyone know anything about NK productions, the producer of the podcast referenced in the Irish Times article?
Larkin wasn’t added to the Leaving Cert until the early 00’s, if I’m not mistaken.
If Augustine Martin didn’t deem him worthy of inclusion in ‘Soundings’ then Ryan, and many others of his “vintage”, might it be as aware of his work either.
I'm surprised Soundings didn't make it into Ryan's three books that changed his life.
I find it hard to believe that anyone self describing as bookish has not heard of Larkin by the time they're in their 50. He certainly would be known by Irish writers.
Grumpy old misogynistic English poets are 10 a penny. Very easy to not know one of them.
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