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He's a couple of majors less so far but I'd rate McIlroy ahead of Mickelson. And by end of career expect him to be well ahead in most people's opinions
He certainly has time on his side, but there is no guarantee that he will surpass Phil.
Phil was 34 when he won his first major.
And at the top of his game. I guess he was a little unlucky to cross over with Tiger at his peak, Phil started to win as Tigers wins started to tail off.
Yeah last years U.S Open and 2022 Open at St. Andrews. In his prime he'd have bagged those 2.
He still is in a very strong position to beat all Phils records . He is currently ranked 2 in OWGR .
Yes ..I was very frustrated with him this week...but he is very likely to win a major again ..even a fall over the line all stars align one ...and will have a hot run at some point ..(more than likely) ..
Why very likely?
Possibly, I understand, but very likely? Not for me. He may well win again, if he does, it will be no surprise because at times his game is certainly good enough. I just don’t think he is very likely to put the four rounds together that is needed to win another major.
because he is world number 2 - and his major record is a sea of yellow on wiki.
At some point - even by rolling the dice enough if he is there or thereabouts, he will win one. It is bizarre he hasn't at this point.
Just look at his US open positions alone - At some point a leader will make an error - or he will hole a few an win one.
When he does win one - the door will open again imo.
I hope you are right, but you are over egging it. The “sea of yellow” started and finished over a decade ago. Leaders have made errors over the last 10 years and he wasn’t able to capitalise, again I would say it is possible, but his short game doesn’t lend itself to a “very likely” probability of winning.
You should really look at his positions in last 9 majors - and in fact he is trending better . He is way way closer now then he was for most of that 10 year period. He had a bad week this week - but watch this space.
It’s pure delusion at this stage.
A lot of talk overnight that Rory is signing for Liv for 850 million.
Had a look around all the reputable sports sites, none of them reporting it. Seems to be coming from a site called City AM in the UK.
But I suppose all the other major defections were preceded by rumours that seemed scarcely believable.
Its not like he's been far away. He had seven top fives between the Masters and the Fed Ex playoffs.
You either die a hero, or you LIV long enough to see yourself become the villian 🤣
seems to be more and more reporting on it. Cannot for the life of me see how this guy can be taken seriously now after a U-turn like this and all the protestations, particularly with his holier than thou stance on it. Hasn’t an ounce of credibility left. Complete hypocrite.
Hmmm, he has a way to go to surpass Phil in my opinion.
Obviously at 24 years old he was a certainty to, but things have changed and I'm one of those who still believes he'll win more majors, but that confidence recedes with every major that passes at this stage in his career.
I think he needs to win more majors than Phil to surpass him and maybe even two more if it doesn't include the Masters.
Phil has been way closer to the career grand slam than Rory with a scarcely believable 6 runners up in the US Open. The only guys who really understand what Rory goes through at the Masters are probably Greg and Phil.
Phil didn't win his first major until a few months prior to Rory's current age, so it's highly unlikely for Rory to be as good as Phil in the second phase of their careers although Rory was better during the first phase.
Phil currently has double Rory's PGA Tour wins 48 vs 24, and every one Rory wins from here have been severely devalued. Pretty much Phil's entire peak was up against a prime Tiger which undeniably lowered Phil's major count. He won a major in his 50s, which again is just astounding!
They both have parts of their game that will hold up in all-time conversations - Rory's driving, woods, long irons and Phil's magical short-game.
For me Rory would need the career grand slam and at least 6 majors to surpass Phil and even then it's close.
For there to be no doubt he'd have to double his major count and win the career grand slam and I still hold out hope of one last run from Phil at the Open, (US that is, but I believe they refer to it as the 'Open' in the US!), however unlikely that now is.
Like I said a curiosity and it'll remain one until he wins in that span.
I think its fair game after the way he was sacrificed by Monahan. I wouldn't hold it against him for moving after the way the PGA leadership treated him. He doesn't owe anybody anything.
there's not a person on here would turn down 850 euro not mind 850 million to do a hell of a lot worse than play golf
Personally I think he should hold out for a billion!
I'd say there could be a big shake up if this happens, either 4 day events or a cut to open up Ranking points and then it's game over
You can't just decide to devalue PGA wins to suit your argument. If we're playing that game, Phil was against weaker fields. It's widely accepted the talent is much deeper now.
Rory also has 9 European Tour wins and an Australian Open.
The Tiger argument is also a bit moot in my opinion. Phil had 21 years from turning pro to winning the Open. We'll call them his prime years. That's 84 majors, Tiger won 14 of them. Phil only came 2nd to Tiger once, I think. So 70 other majors Tiger didn't win.
All of this is to say that I believe their careers could be seen as quite similar, assuming Rory continues to win a couple of events each year for the next 10 years. If he doesn't win any more majors then the comparison obviously doesn't hold. But to say he needs double the majors is odd.
Ah, when his career is over it will boil down to Major wins, someone mentions Monty and no one remembers his order of merit dominance (maybe his RC records) just he never won a Major. If Rors does not win more he will be in the same comment of just not having won anywhere near his share of Majors (perhaps like Norman ironically).
I have no clue how many PGA events Jack won but everyone will know his 18 Major haul and that is the mark of a great.
They're all quoting the same source, City AM. Which probably isn't the most reliable
they are quoting the same source, City AM.
Hold on. Monty has won 3 senior majors which he ranks on a par with the real majors.. just sayin... as Monty would say himself.. all credit to senior majors.. very much so…
And you believed him?
we all know tiger tied sam sneads record and jack is in third place, all the greats follow this
The majors things is hype just like all the masters tradition is just hype
You can be well sure that records mean as much to tiger as the majors one as does being world number 1 for 10 years, and he tied the record with that last masters win, its why he kept playing through all the pain
its what is used in the argument over who is best
Tiger only has one goal, to beat Jack's 18, he could not care less about ranking or money or other wins, it's all about beating Jack, he has said the same himself many times over, on the Sam Snead he made a small comment but moved on quickly.
He fancies himself for more Masters I reckon and maybe The Open to catch and pass Jack
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