Then they wouldn't be sites that have good distribution network capacity would they. CPO's build chargers where the grid can handle them and other services exist, not many operators looking to install them in empty fields without other planned facilities.
Our major electrical distribution routes mirror pretty well the major road networks, is there anywhere you think is a particular blackspot or is more of a theoretical problem.
Pretty sure it's the Flexpole from VW group ( https://www.elli.eco/en/b2b/charging-hardware/flexpole-fast-charger ). 150kW charging available from a 63A three phase low voltage connection that served the 50kW triple heads. They have 193kWh of battery included, with charging curves and occupancy rates they're a decent solution for petrol station roll outs in supply limited areas.
This is why I think there should be extra focus on putting fast chargers in less than ideal locations from a commercial standpoint
The Faster project was a great example of this, those chargers likely wouldn't have been viable without the councils getting behind the project
It'd be great to see more of this in the west of Ireland, then @MarkN wouldn't get stuck at the only DC charger in town (loved that video btw 😂)
That’s great. Im glad you think you have such vast knowledge of the distribution and transmission system that feeds that distribution 🙄
I know there is a lot of talk along the lines of don’t buy a car with a Chademo charger as they will be phased out etc etc
But in fairness, in the brand new charger location in Tipp town at Supermacs, they also have Chademo…….so can’t be all bad. (Now I know it’s only one example but still) is the whole thing about Chademo dying a small bit exaggerated?
Yes and no
Some Ecars chargers with Chademo are being removed, although I'm pretty sure some of their newer installations have Chademo still
Other providers are still installing Chademo
Some will never install Chademo, the only requirement to comply with regulations is CCS
I think the issue with Chademo is that gaps could start opening up in the network, so a journey you can do now might be a pain later
The other problem is speed, there's CCS cars that can charge at over 200kW while the Leaf maxes out at around 70kW
For anyone considering a new Leaf, it's a hard sell, particularly when you can get an MG4 which has CCS for similar money
Yeah. I wouldn’t buy a new Leaf - maybe a 2018. But then that has the situation of less range and then I would need more Chademo chargers for a journey and if they are been taken away as time goes by, not great either. i.e. the gaps as you say, may get wider on a future journey.
I’d only ever consider a Leaf as a /nd car for local run-arounds, under the assuytgst it would only ever be charged at home/on AC
I don't I can simply read click the capacity map, the grid map, and road map and see that they are aligned. It's also pretty straight forward to see where CPO's are installing chargers and see that it's in areas that have available grid capacity. Also when ESB and Eirgrid do presentations (such as to IEVOA) and they refer to not being particularly worried about grid capacity I believe them.
There's a large amount of information published by our electrical distribution system, instead of worrying about a hypothetical field away without access to the grid, it's easier to look up what's been published and see that it's not a huge issue. Fortunately, the CPO's installing chargers also have access to the information and do research before installing them.
Did you find your problematic location yet that require lot's LV and MV upgrade work?
So are you trying to tell me there’s no need for upgrading grid capacity as according to you ESB and Eirgrid aren’t worried about it? So transmission lines that are being upgraded at the moment is pointless is it?
These are bp pulse specs. They have given a lot of trouble. My understanding is they are working on fixes, more spares locally and weekend repair staff.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/477763
No as I started on this, I said CPO's tend to install chargers where there is available capacity, instead of deploying them in fields where a lot of expensive grid re-enforcement is required. There's no point building a charging site in the middle of nowhere when a few kilometers down the road there is a location with much more local capacity.
IM motors in China has started sale of new EV with solid state battery with a range of 1000km and 10 minutes charging time.
https://interestingengineering.com/transportation/china-ev-solid-state-battery
But a diesel can do 1200km...
That's CLTC range, which is highly optimistic, realistically its half of that in real world and am willing to bet the high powered chargers needed are few and far between.
https://cnevpost.com/2024/04/04/nio-1st-mass-produced-150-kwh-battery-off-line/
This is 1200 km range
Very very expensive though: $41k. 😲
Random ICE thoughts…..
As few and far between as the number of people who need to drive 1200 kms without stopping for a break where they can refuel
Just worked out that it would be the equivalent of driving from Dublin to Wexford, then to Killarney via Cork, then on to Sligo via Limerick and Galway, on to Derry, then Belfast and back to Dublin again. Roughly 16 hours without stops or traffic issues. Start at 6am, finish at 10pm. Bladder full, stomach empty. 🤣
It's highly optimistic but a 150kwh battery should be getting you 750km real world with a consumption of 20kwh/100km
You'd wonder if the extra weight of that battery would have a greater impact on range though.
no one is going to do that, but pick any one of intercity trips return without stopping is what most would like to do, I am going to cork tomorrow, 350 km or so, I need to buy nurafen a few other things today, I will fill up and I will not give a 2nd thought of where I am going till I get close to Cork, then enter the post code into the phone and arrive, then another one or 2 stops, find some place nice to eat and drive home, no preconditioning, no abrp, no motorway food, no looking for chargers, just a stress free drive.
Where are you starting from? Donegal? Dundalk? Dundalk is 340km and about three and a half hours. Donegal is a longer drive time wise. It's your choice if you want to do that without a break, but it's advisable to take a 15 minute break every two hours of driving. And even if you do it non-stop, there are plenty of EVs that will do that trip without stopping for a charge, using ABRP or motorway food. And preconditioning is automatic once you select a charger as your destination in most modern EVs. No need for your phone either (also unsafe to be using while driving).
Jesus you're really on one today😡. Time for the ignore button me thinks.
thats mad because my sister bought her first EV last Wednesday (a 2022 Kona), and on Saturday they drove up from Waterford to Dublin in it (Artane so all the way round the top of the M50), stayed overnight, went for a drive out to Howth for a drive on Sunday morning, then drove back to Waterford on Sunday evening… They granny charged for a few hours in my mothers house for peace of mind, but didn't need to and made it back home with range (plus what they added on the granny charger to spare).
I did bring them up to the local AC charger to get an experience of public charging for the 1st time (they added 1%).
So an intercity trip, there and back on a single charge…
You do you.
Different battery chemistry should have greater energy density than the old type of battery. Electrons don't weigh anything
The semi-solid battery cells come from local startup Beijing WeLion New Energy Technology, which started delivering 360 Wh/kg Li-ion battery cells to Nio on June 30, 2023.
Based on that, I calculated that the battery pack would weigh around 420kg without the casing. Looking at current battery technology that is indeed quite light per kWh. Maybe around the weight of a current tech 90kWh one.
The idea is that it won't weigh any more than what the current ones do.
As far as I know though, nio are not letting customers buy these cars with the big semi solid battery, lease only. That makes me wonder how confident they are in the durability of the battery.
