https://www.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/dublin-news/cars-to-be-banned-from-areas-of-dublins-quays-as-part-of-city-transport-plan/a745050370.html#:~:text=Dublin%20GAA-,Cars%20to%20be%20banned%20from%20areas%20of%20Dublin's,part%20of%20city%20transport%20plan&text=The%20first%20measures%20to%20reduce,Bachelor's%20Walk%20and%20Aston%20Quay.
Can't say I'm in favor of where we're going with this. Whatever about a congestion charge like london, an outright ban seems too… cabbage ryan… for my liking.
Oh right, from the way you stated it above it seemed like this was being implemented along with the Bus gate.
I haven't spoken with Mr. O'Leary lately so not sure if he maintained the licence, probably gets people to come to see him now rather than he going to their offices.
It's relevant to the history of Bus lanes/Taxi use in Ireland, maybe you want to give us a further insight from a Taxi drivers point of view?
This is Dublin City Council doing this, not the Government. Any council can do this
You could have just posted a link, you know.
When asked to back up an assertion, your response is basically 'do your own research'. Which comes across as insincere.
It's actually such a pity they didn't do this, would be great and Dublin would be like most modern cities. Belfast has a motorway right through the City and traffic is much better than Dublin.
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Others have provided quotes. But I think the Greens actions/policies are sufficient to show this. Closing roads to private cars, and blocking new road schemes. Even if people transition to electric cars, they’ll still need roads to use them. With a hugely expanding population public transport can’t meet everyone’s needs nationally.
This could get off-topic from the Dublin traffic plans - but thats one more example of showing contempt for private car ownership.
I posted it in a light-hearted manner, which I presume is also the same way as what you've just posted?
Putting Motorways through city centres is 1960's thinking and not compatible with modern thinking, and it's the way every city in the world is going now to reduce unsustainable levels of private vehicles on city streets..
Sure in Glasgow there's a move to scrap the M8 motorway that's divided the city..
Even without looking at green issues surely we can see that the private car model is not sustainable long-term and we should look to begin transitioning away. Electric cars are not the solution to the car problem.
The Greens haven't made this change. The Greens do not control Dublin City Council. The Greens haven't tried to stop you driving around 24/7. Why do people not inform themselves before making these daft claims?
This proposal is by DCC who wish to reduce the large number of (mostly) single occupant private cars on some of the streets in Dublin's city centre. It really isn't the motoring armageddon some are making it out to be 🙄
There's no point, everything people don't like is woke and the greens
Belfast is the same area as Dublin and employees less than 1/4 the number of people.
They have no provided quotes to say the "Green actions/policies" want all private cars gone. The screen image was of a headline and if you read the article it doesn't say that at all. This is just the nonsense that gets posted across the web by a certain group and instead of researching for themself people take it as reality
Nobody is saying public transport will meet everyone need nationally either.
You are making sweeping statement based on things that have been imagined up by people. Check into it yourself and you will find none of the above has been said by any party
In terms of Dublin traffic, the plan is to move more people towards public transport. Hardly a shocking revelation as this has been discussed for years. How is shutting down a few streets in Dublin "contempt"? what are motorist showing to everyone else when they are demanding access to area which should be pedestrian only?
Lol, lucky indeed, lucky enough to receive literally billions of Euros from Dublin for 15 years of Irelands motorways criss crossing the country while the city waits for a metro.
At the moment, I imagine your options are extremely limited, if the amount of cars was reduced significantly, there would be a much faster route for emergency vehicles and Poblic transport.
With a hugely expanding population public transport can’t meet everyone’s needs nationally.
You have this completely arse backwards. With a hugely expanding population we can no longer rely on private car travel but need to rapidly move to as much public and active travel as possible.
A lot of people aren't going to sit around for 2hrs waiting for an ambulance if their child is very sick. Should they put them on the back of their bicycle?
It has already been mentioned, but I suspect they won't be too bothered about driving down a bus lane either.
No surprise here… DCC are extremely anti-car as are the Greens of course - happy to take the tax revenue from VRT, motor tax and VAT/levies on insurance, consumables, fuel etc though……
"Active Travel" has to be one of the most moronic "right on" phrases to emerge in recent years, especially when they try to apply it in rural or even suburban settings with poor connectivity. Give up using your car and instead cycle/walk everywhere!
Nonsense… but there's no point arguing it. It's become "fashionable" in some quarters to demonise the motorist and like every crusade/cult (as befits most Green types) there's just no reasoning with the acolytes.
DCC don't get that taxation and is not controlled by the Green Party.
"Active Travel" has to be one of the most moronic "right on" phrases to emerge in recent years, especially when they try to apply it in rural or even suburban settings with poor connectivity
Except this is literally a thread about the exact centre of Dublin City.
Christ motorists can be such babies.
What do people that don't have a car do now? Are they banning cars completely? It appears that they are only banning them on the Quays. As a percentage of cars in Dublin every day, how many of them are actually transporting someone or some thing in an emergency situation? How do Parisiennes transport sick people to hospital in an emergency? I do Imagine that lanes will are much easier for those needing them, when the lanes are not blocked by SOV's, which is what is happening- seriously, do you think the current traffic situation is good? Do you think a car can make it to a hospital in gridlock? Give yourself a shake…. it really appears you cannot see the forest for the trees.
yup, every time restrictions in dublin come up, people who decided to live in "rural ireland" start kicking off like it's a personal attack on them
They aren't being stopped from using their car (if they have one - car ownership in the city centre is extremely low)
In the ridiculous scenario given, driving down the quays was never the logical option anyway
I always laugh at these threads.
The same call is made time and time again to improve public transport.
Said council makes a plan to implement improvements
Same people de-cry plan as an 'anti-motorist' crusade.
Rinse-repeat.
Why is there a pre-condition that we have to have perfect Public Transport before one motorist is discommoded?
That one motorist is carrying all the old and sick people in the country in their car, to be fair.
Are they using it late at night? Not so much. Cherry picking to suit yourself.
you said public transport isn't safe, you didn't specify when. get on the 24 hour 15 bus at 3am on a saturday night and it's packed to the rafters. are you afraid to walk around outside at night too or just afraid of public transport?
Given the success of pretty much all the 24 hour bus services introduced so far, it seems plenty of people are using it anyway.
You haven't heard of Induced Demand then?
Could the OP please clarify who is 'the motorist' that we're crusading against? Do we have a name or a reg number or even make/model/colour?
We could have the best public transport system in the World and you will still have people who won't use it. It will have nothing to do with rich or poor which people concentrate on. It's down to good old laziness
It's a lot easy to roll out of bed and jump into a car, expecting to drive right to an office door
Getting up, walking to a bus stop/train/Luas, walking from the stop to office is a lot more than some can manage.
Hence why anything that might make it more difficult to use the car is declare as a "war" or "crusade" etc
No idea why the government would want people to do a little more exercise
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-now-second-most-obese-country-in-eu/40679803.html#:~:text=Ireland%20has%20the%20second%20highest,adults%20in%202019%20were%20obese.
Any thoughts as to what the 50k+ people who cycle to work or college each day in Dublin should do?
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