The car I bought recently was a year old and was 20k off. So he's not exactly unusual. Unless he bought it for 35k. 🤣
A lot of people don't recognise this paradigm shift. I'm constantly answering questions on my Leafs battery problems. I always emphasize that the Leaf is pretty unique but, whether you want to believe it or not, many don't want to /choose not to differentiate. So yes IMO the Leaf has impacted negatively on people's perception of EVs
OR you could say if it wasn't for the success of the Nissan Leaf, many wouldn't have got into driving evs or recommend them to friends and family.
You could indeed but again IMO many people have delayed moving to EVs because of their concerns around the Leafs excessively degrading batteries and poor range. Some people are glass half full some are the opposite
Is the degradation excessive? Honestly thought it was about average considering the age of the vehicles.
Mine's (2016) at 62% and as low as 60km range in poor weather. While it may be worse than average its not unique. Its the one serious weakness in what is otherwise a great short haul car
Ok, yeah that's excessive. I presume out of warranty so you've just got to live with it.
Yes out of warranty but I had reported battery problems before the 160k km warranty limit. However, Nissan's position is that car hadn't dropped 4th bar before 160k km limit was breached so technically not covered by warranty.
If only all the nissan batteries were as good as the 132-171 24 kWh. They seem to last really well in comparison. Unfortunately both the 30 and 40 kWh battery seems less than perfect in comparison.
I would say most people complaining about EVs don't know what a Leaf is. They are just parroting sound bites from media.
As car enthusiast I'm very aware most people don't even know how the ice car they've had all their life works, or know how to change a wheel.
That's very annoying. Can you find out if it's all the cells or just a few?
Leafspy Intermittently reports multiple weak cells but 2 Nissan Dealers don't want to hear about Leafspy and claim their diagnostics indicate battery is healthy.
Advise they don't have the capacity to perform any more detailed diagnostics on the battery and I would have to approach Windsor in Dublin to see if they would take in the car to see if any issue could be discovered. However, they cautioned that Windsor may not be able to do anything for me either. One dealer said they had a 2020 Leaf with them for a number of weeks already and Nissan were not forthcoming with any solutions. T
Fascinating video here of a guy taking the battery pack out of a Leaf (2012 I think) and replacing a bad cell identified by Leafspy. It's a slow enough process but quite surprisingly low tech. Mostly lots of bolts removed.
I think you will get better technical knowledge and willingness from a independent who specialises in EV batteries.
Either in Ireland or the UK.
Some EV battery repair projects, including costs. It looks like manufacturers will specify a full replacement when repair is possible for a fraction of the price. https://evclinic.eu/ev/
What struck me in that video was how relatively easy and mess free it was to remove the battery. Definitely need the ramp, but other than that it was just a lot of bolts. When you look at the job getting an ICE out of a car…
I think theres quite a bit of work getting into battery packs depending on how they are put together. If you want to replace cells.
Did you have a look at that video? It certainly didn't seem that difficult, more a case of making sure you recorded the steps for ease of re-assembly. The big advantage was having Leafspy to identify the problem cell.
Would it be typical for an ICE car to lose 40% in a year? Hopefully it is the case and I might be able to buy one :)
If going to that hassle, id rather explore the 40 kWh conversion.
Very similar for most EV's. Have a look at Grubber Motors on You Tube.
Will have a look at video posted above to see what's involved. Seems a straightforward job in that Leafspy has clearly identified a single weak cell which can then be replaced. In my case Leafspy only intermittently identifies weak cells and often these are different cells. So not sure how confident I would be to definitively identify the weak cells.
Must look into cost of 40kwh conversion but from memory I though it cost somewhere of the order of €6k to €8k which I'm not sure I'd be prepared to sink into an 8 year old L30 accenta
Probably best to run Leafspy a few times over time and note the cell numbers it identifies. After a few iterations you'd be confident enough that you have them all identified. Or whether you can rely on Leafspy at all.
Sounds like a bargain, what'd you get?
I was making a general comment about EVs not just that Leaf.
To answer that you'd have to look at a year before the current EV price war.
He's a so-called tech correspondent and doesn't have a breeze about that, either.
Polestar 2 LRDM. With all the packs.
Also I think he is deluded to think he would get 25k in a trade in.
Diesel V electric vid that I made recently. Might silence a few wafflers.
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