The use of Matrix LED technology via Functions on Demand is possible in the following vehicles: /Audi e-tron Q8/Audi e-tron (from MY 2020) or an Audi e-tron GT (from MY 2022)
Thats one of the reasons I changed from Audi everything I wanted came as standard on the Seal. I priced the same sped on a A6 and was looking at €100,000?
I’d expect them on the SLine to be honest. The lower models were extra. You could also pay extra to upgrade to the HD Matrix on the SLine I believe. I have the BMW laser on my 530e so can see the benefit of them if driving a lot.
Here’s the current Audi speal - https://www.audi.ie/ie/web/en/models/functions-on-demand-2023/matrix-led-package.html
I also had Matrix headlights as standard on my 2018 Toureg.
Matrix LED Lights are standard on the A6 SLine since the new model came out late '18
No but people are championing Tesla for adding a feature that has been avaiabilble for years in "legacy" manufacturers - and yes if only specced as an option but they worked.
The is no innovation here.
Congragulate on the basis of enabling a feature OTA that the hardware has been capable of since leaving the factory, there is no need for a comparison to"Legacy" manufacturers.
Let the feature and its roll out stand on its own.
Tesla are innovative in certain areas but they are definitely not in light technology. When I picked up my Model Y a year ago, I knew it had "Matrix" headlights but they didnt have the software to run them. The only reason that Tesla didnt allocate the resources to developing the software for the units is because they are not allowed in the US currently.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that others don’t have it now. It’s that they don’t come standard on the car when the original buyer bought it. All new cars should have them nowadays. Toyota also have a 10 year warranty if you service it yearly with them. That should be the minimum standards too.
Some early ID4 models had them in certain specs at a reasonable price but that was about it.
I think it's great anyway. Certainly a bonus for my father when it was one feature he was initially losing when switching from ID4 to MY and now will be standard. Just makes the car even better value when comparing like for like specs with other brands.
Toyota bz4x has led matrix headlights. AFAIK. Same price as model Y.
Correct me it I’m wrong, but what legacy car can you buy for €40k that comes with Matrix LED headlights as standard? Weren’t they like a €7,000 option a few years ago on luxury cars like Audi A8 etc
Depends on what level you want to go to. But all of my cars get the following when doing the inside :
1. General Hoover, mats out etc.
2. Wipe down with dry micro fibre cloth to get rid of any loose dirty, debris from the dash etc
3. P&S Express Interior Detailer spray on the seats and agitate with an interior brush. Wipe clean with a microfiber cloth. 4. I do the dash and interior plastics with various different products depending on what I have at that time. The above P&S can be used on plastics, leather, screams etc.
The seats can be interchanged with Koch Chemie Pol Star diluted down or something from the Labocosmetica range or Soft99 Wash Mist which can also be used everywhere inside except the leather.
Every few months then I would put a coat of GTexhniq L1 on the seats. Purely because of how easy it is to apply.
What would you recommend on cleaning the interior of the highland ?
I’ve used Soft99 on mine over the years. Also used GTechniq system, the polish and then the coating.
Both as good as each other IMO but the Soft99 was a lot easier to apply and work with.
you had to pay, rather expensive sums of money to get matrix lights on the older legacy car manufacturers. Yet these owners will get them for “free” OTA. For example, VW charged £1700 for the matrix upgrade that you had to spec from the factory or you could never have them.
Audi currently charge €2325 for matrix lights function in Ireland.
And before you say anything, no, I don’t get this as I don’t have a car with them so I have no skin in the game.
Anyone here applied the likes of Rain X or ceramic coating to the windscreen? Use something like yellow frog tape to isolate the camera FOV to avoid applying in that area so it wouldn't cause glare or other unwanted effects.
Tesla are no stranger to the same practice, ship the product with required hardware and feature disabled and option to buy/ subscribe later e.g. FSD in the US.
And thats fine, yes they have the best OTA update system around and they delivered an additional feature that the hardware was capeable from the factory, that deerves some praise.
Just the point about legacy manufacturers for this specific scenario / feature is a bit pointeless as they have been shipping the same features for years straight out of the factory.
Matrix was not even advertised as a possibility when I purchased back in '21. Yet I and every other Tesla owner got it in '24 without paying for subscription or additional cost.
"Subscribe"
Talk about spin...I would argue that its taken them years to deliver something that "legacy" manufacturers have had for years straight from the factory, i.e. they had no need to deliver the functionanlity over the air at a later date.
As for OTA updates specifically for lights, again legacy manufactueres have offered this for years, e.g. Audi etrons shipped with Matrix headlights from the factory and you could purchase at a later date or subscribe through the app to enable them.
Every Model Y in the country has support for them, and also the Model 3 from 2020Q4 onwards. Beat that legacy makes! I mean what other manufacturer gives you brand new features many years after buying the car and all painlessly over the air?
Not yet for me. Hopefully 2024.8.7 will land soon:)
Great so the Model Y is getting the matrix update as well? I know the M3H got it a few weeks ago but didn't realise it was rolling out to Model Y also.
Yep, last week, plus another small update last night.
I haven't been able to test the lights yet as I'm working in the city, but over the weekend I'll be using them.
Has anyone had the latest update yet? The one to include the matrix headlights?
It's correct, the same happens if you add enhanced Autopilot, or the dearer wheels (I think).
Just get the car and then add on the extras afterwards. A Tesla ranger can call to you to fit a tow bar for about €150 on top of the price after delivery and save you the extra VRT.
Apologises if this has been covered before but have a Y Model for delivery in March/April and added the tow bar option for an additional €1350 as part of the build. Noticed that the VRT without tow bar cost €1349 and with the tow bar €2176. An additional €827 tax on a €1350 extra. How does this calculate out, as tried web searching VRT reliefs on EVs and could not find the taper levels for between €40k and €50k. Could this be right as shown in the Tesla invoice calculation. Cancelled the tow bar from the order thankfully.
Contacted Tesla customer service and the tow bar can be added for an addition €1350 with an option to have done at your house. Does anyone know anything about this post sale install and could the extraordinary VRT bump be correct?
Sounds like the clever move is to quite rationalising a car that he loves and keep enjoying it for well past 4 years 😊
If he held it for 3 years (he says 3-4) some would expect it to have warranty for that 4th year when selling it on..... his wouldnt. It would be long gone.
If he keeps it for 4yrs+ then yea, you are right, but he is concerned about the warranty being gone when he goes to sell around that time.
The OP said: "kinda caught in 2 minds for the future ie happy out holding on to it for 3-4 years but conscious of that extra hit on value if it’s out of warranty".
If he's holding it 4 years then it matters little what mileage it is., that was my point. No mention of changing it earlier than 4 years, which would then have a small mileaue variable of course.
What happens to new BMWs or Mercedes vehicles when their warranty is over after 2 years, do the prices tank?
1 year old MY LR real world range in case useful for anyone.
413 km traveled
SOC 100% -> 3%
180km@120 , 130km@100, remainder@<80km/h
Temp 7C, roads dry & moderately wet, winds light and it was a return journey
Cabin temp 19C, seat and steering wheel set to 1 rasher for final third.
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