The key elements include six high speed charging hubs on motorways capable of charging eight vehicles simultaneously; 16 high speed charging hubs capable of charging four vehicles simultaneously; additional high power chargers at 34 current 50 kW locations; upgrading over 50 22 kW chargers to 50 kW, and replacing up to 264 locations with 528 charge points at the pre-existing pilot grade of 22 kW to next generation high reliability models.
How do EVs get to these areas, if there's nowhere to charge?
I'm sure there are local EV owners in these areas and people who come from areas not to far out and people who cross the country who take the risk, is the charger working when I get there, is it in use etc. I can reach many of these areas on a single charge but the hassle is when I get there, long wait to charge, might be a queue or a broken charger as often there is only 1 charger, I'm not taking the risk. Many of them are 50 Kw, I can fill the diesel and do twice the range I get in my 77 Kwh EV., It's a thirsty Outlander.
Which brings us back to the question of why did you buy a vehicle that can't the journeys you seem desperate to do. If the infrastructure isn't there today to support it, it certainly wasn't there a decade ago when you bought the car.
We have 2 cars, we just take the diesel whenever charging will become a chore.
A decade ago, or almost I had the Nissan leaf 24 Kwh, 21 Kwh usable, now I have the VW id3 tour 5 with 73 Kwh available battery, with a lot more range but still not enough at times.
I don't get it.
An EV didn't work for you, because of your regular long journeys. So you bought another one.
I mean for an ID3 the infrastructure is only got better.
I'd go so far to say even in the last 12 months its improved drastically. I am up the west coast from Galway to Letterkenny regularly and a couple of years ago this trip required a bit of planning and time allowance due to limited SPOF options. Now with good options at Galway, Tuam, Sligo, Donegal Town and Letterkenny I no longer plan this trip. To be fair this is mainly due to ESB ecars (Galway - Tesla). Of course it could be always better, but if things keep improving at this rate, this could well be a pointless discussion in another 18 months.
Its easy enough to top up any any of these places then go to many of the holiday spots like Connemara or Westport and have plenty of juice to get back to a main charger. Then most towns have a SPOF if you get caught out.
I go to Cork and Shannon a number of times a month from north Dublin in my EV, and there's loads of 100KW+ options along those routes, so not sure what you're talking about with the "South or South West" part.
By the sounds of your posts over the last few days, you don't seem to have a very up-to-date knowledge of the availability of faster public chargers.
Also most of the apps show you which chargers are free and which are occupied. A lot of them with colour coding, so you can see at a glance of the map.
BP you can use your card, although BP have a pre-auth of 50GBP, which is higher than most ROI debit card tap limits (50EUR), but you can use Google Wallet/Apple Pay if your card isn't supported to tap.
There was the Maxol Kinnegar hub in Holywood with 6 x 150KW+ chargers a few minutes down the road from the Transport Museum on your route home. Several other potential stops too before Ionity Dublin.
The problem is that I'm not risking queues or a broken charger and have to drive miles to risk waiting at another charger. I understand people are willing to do it but we have a diesel so why bother ? the convenience of ICE still can't be beaten.
Not sure that even showed up on whatever map I was using but the AC at the museum was enough to get me back to Stamullen at 7% charge from about 54% which was the first time I saw 130 Kw from plugging in so low.
I know I was looking for a charger that was on the map but couldn't find.
Not everyone does the same journeys. For me the convenience of charging at home is great and rarely do long journeys.
Yeah I've been charging at home for 9 years, and we have the diesel when needed when we can't be bothered with the hassle at public chargers but the reality is that we're not really doing the mileage for her to need a diesel or I an EV.
I don't care really about filling up with diesel it's a far simpler and far faster process, no problem at all. I have a Maxi scooter now too and have to fill that up, doesn't really bother me.
Ah yeah, lived in the borderlands all my life, I have a UK Google account and an Irish one for that reason.
Contactless takes a pre auth of £50 which most cards down here will reject, but another work around is to use Google pay/apple pay as it does not have that restriction.
I've holidayed around rural Cork, Kerry and Clare with no charging issues, even at peak tourist season.
It's there a >50kW charger in Waterford or Wexford that isn't Ionity Gorey?
Wexford looks light to be fair, but around Waterford isn't too bad if travelling in the southeast
"Yeah, BP, couldn't figure it out, the app wouldn't let me use it because it knew I was from the south!!!!"
Ulster says NO!!! 😁
Thanks for the tip, I will certainly try the BP chargers so next time I'm up that way.
Savage. Thank you very much!
Quick edit: I'm harking back to the days where there was a fast charger in Waterford out by Whitfield private hospital. Was in a petrol station but it seems to be gone now!
This is the point exactly, I have just changed from a diesel A6 (which I loved) to a BYD Seal because I just wasn't doing the mileage anymore, The seal's range can cover all the return trips i do to Cork, Wexford and Kilkenny from Waterford so the home charging suits. The longest journey I might have is Dublin and that is only once or twice a year.
I don't know what map you're using, but both are on Plugshare and ZapMap, which are the only two you need. Plugshare more used down here, ZapMap more used in NI/GB, but most chargers are on both.
ABRP seems decent and works well as App in the car.
That is gone, but Ionity are supposed to be moving in there.
That was the famous garage where the garage owner was a complete fruitcake….
Wife did a charge yesterday at a 100kw esb charge point. I could see that the charge time was 47 minutes 26 seconds (even though I told her not to go over 45 mins)
I don't see any ‘overstay fee’
are these fees normally issued instantaneously or at the end of a month etc. Anyone know?
The overstay gets charged at the same time. I believe there is a grace period that they don't advertise so you got lucky
Grace period is 2 and a half minutes. Probably. 🤣
I was fully sure it was 2 minutes previously. Perhaps it includes the 47th minute, ie you get charged after 47:59 has passed
Either way hogging a charger is to be discouraged
Bray seafront has had the 22kW replaced with a 50kW/22kW CCS. Only problem is I’ve never seen it not ice’d or quite often, blocked by a grey Ioniq 5 that isn’t charging. Rather frustrating.
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