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Its all too pat...It was all preplanned, from the videos, they acted very professionally, calm and collected, no hasty movements. They shot people and then double checked, and if in doubt, shot them again. They set explosives and had fire accelerants which they doused the building with before setting it on fire. They locked escape exits, hoping to kill many more people locked inside. Then they made their escape, and to my mind, all according to plan, and for what its worth, they hid out in Moscow. For sure they didn't make a bee line for Ukraine,,,thats beyond belief!!! The burning question though is who actually did it? and perhaps more important what is Putin going to do about it?
Thats true in the sense that they are not going to inflict heavy military type damage, but terrorising the population and by doing so, making it clear to Russians that Putin is unable to defend them, will weaken their faith in him, and cause them to question other activities he's claimed are necessary. I'd say that Skabveena and Solovyov etc are sweating now cooking up their storys.
Putin couldn't care less about the lives lost, but for sure, its a big thorn in his side if indeed ISIS carried it out. Thats something else entirely.
Its the only play IMHO.
Did ISIS not release a video showing the terrorists using bodycams while performing the attack ?
Jaysus. X is swamped with isis is israel, cia is isis, usa is isis and so on. I dont see any russia is isis or isis is putin :D .. X is just flooded now with bots and pro putin tweeters. Used to be able to mute the tweets / users before to clean it up but now there are just too many. Mr Musks concept of free unmoderated speech
yup, if you see sudden influx of ruSSian trolls and propoganda scutters around media, it means whatever just happened hurt them badly. It means collectively we are doing great job!
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If it wasn't those 4 men and Russia doesn't have 4 others who are actually guilty then they can't keep on looking and that would be untenable.
They must have the men ,but where are they?
If it is those 4 men they have they been given a script to learn before being "interrogated" in public?
Thats quite the haul, 3 planes and 2 ships and I believe another wild refinery ?in one night....russia is huge but there is only so long they can sustain these losses.. months ? years ?
So from what appears to be an Xer on team putin / russia. Note just tweeting the following "info" but no source what so ever. Anyway here ye go, try this on:
In case you're wondering why "it took so long" to apprehend terrorists. This is important to understand:
The secret services found the terrorists either while they were still in Moscow or in the Moscow region, and tracked the car to figure out where they were going and whether they would meet with anyone.
At the same time, their phones were being listened to, which led to seven more detainees in this case.
Then, in the wee hours of morning, when the terrorists were already tired and the information had largely been gathered, the arrest took place so as not to "spoil their skin and take them alive for interrogation."
You seem to be suggesting this was some kind of inside job. Why can't you just accept the evidence that Isis did it? They have produced very credible claims to back it up and the US seems to fully believe them, these were not some fsb guys with beards taped on
Twitter is a busted flush and while I don't see it fully collapsing if the journalists abandon it, it's fúcked. But primarily the best response to its sharp decline of standards would be to log out, and stay logged out.
If, and it's a big if, the current rate of hitting the refineries keeps up I'd say months before they are in serious trouble, at the front, at home and financing the continuing war at all..
Yes @pixelburp Over the years I carefully curated a list of people to follow, mainly known journo's, papers, experts in areas and all that .. alot of work in that :D .. I can get away from most of the rubbish by sticking to the FOLLOWING tab rather than the FOR YOU tab. But even the FOLLOWING TAB is now getting infiltrated some what. If that gets too much yes I will abandon. Its a shame, because the concept if run right and moderated right is good.
I think the whole Social Media aspect of the Internet is a busted flush at this stage.
i would assume months but russia seems like a forever juggernaut. I reckon one day there might be a chain reaction of things collapsing.
I can see why your man lost his job.
What I'm suggesting is that whoever did it, it was a very professional job. And was planned down to the last detail. I'm not suggesting anything, because I don't know who did it, or who ordered it. But all the details supplied by the Kremlin, linking it to Ukraine are just unbelievable.
I've read that the way things go in Russia one day it looks like nothing could ever change them out of the blue everything changes.
Wonder how many refineries there are in Russia and is it feasible that most can be taken out.Proberly wishful thinking but that and giving the people who so far have not suffered the consequences of Putin's the jitters seems one big way to hopefully turn the tide .There seems little chance of enough military defeats against Putin to turn in favour of Ukraine .
Yes there is not a single person, probably not even in Russia, who genuinely believes Ukraine had any involvement.
I'm not actually sure Putin is going to use this to escalate in any way, more just to cover his ass: if he admits it was Isis, it's a massive security failure and a new threat, if Ukraine then it justifies endless war, so it's the excuse that serves him best (still a security failure but hey it's Russia nobody expects accountability)
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Yes, I've just seen it, with the faces blurred out. And even by their build, they don't look like the ones caught by Putin's FSB even allowing for them having their uniforms removed. So did they do it? I dont know, even if the US says they did, which is admittedly very compelling evidence. We will see how it pans out.
Presently, that's the million-dollar question.
this looks like so me sort of 'loyalty coupon' or discount card. Collect all ships and you get something for free. 6 more to go...
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For dramatic irony alone I hope the St George the Victorious sinks next.
Just my opinion, I don't think that they have the real perpetrators,,,the Kremlins story stinks to high heaven. Commit mass murder, jump in a vehicle, and head for Ukraine??? No way!! Putin needed to show that they were on the ball, and everything is back under control.
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