im not sure why they allowed themselves to be captured... they are going to experience total hell
I think there were enough western leaders who reacted in sympathy with the Russians
What do you want to say about it?(Are you a part of the West)
They won't because russians have experience of islamic terrorism long before Ukraine war, this reeks of desperation and embarrasment by russian regime. They have no option but to link it to Ukraine because if they don't it calls into question the whole war on Ukraine and that russia is actually fighting the wrong enemy. In Putin propaganda Ukranians are russians , oh but ukranians are now also islamist terrorists aswell? This is really stretching credibility even for the gullible russians
Do we know they had anything to do with it?
What are you on about? Its in the context of using western weapons to hit the Russian population, which their drones don't fall under, And yes it would be a waste of a 200000 euro drone to fly it into an apartment building. Not that Russians care flying their Iskander ballistic missiles into population centres
Yes, calm and professional during the attack, and yet, managed to get caught afterwstory immediaterards? I doubt it.... more like the FSB had to come up with a plausible story immediately.
You mean the terrorist attacks the West warned Russia about and was told to **** off?
That's your take away?
Russia didn't listen to the words that might have saved lives.
And now Russia lies about the source of the attacks, to fuel more of its terrorism against Ukraine.
But... "the West"?
You're disappointed by a number that may be completely made up ?
What if the real number is actually 5% ? (I know that's highly unlikely, but still)
Why does the 87% disappoint you when you know it's not correct?
The West is just as quiet when it happens in the West.
Don't look back in anger, beware of working class anger, simpletons playing imagine etc.
Given all the voter suppression etc etc.. I would expect him to polled higher yes ... or maybe that would have looked to suspicious
Except that Putin has previous form for similar attacks on his own people, he proved that in the Moscow apartment bombings to gain power and killed 300+ Russian citizens to do it. He's not afraid of retribution like you describe, because he has his own private army whose sole job is to protect him. No, his main concern now is how to turn this attack to his advantage. And that's all he's worried about.
As in "here is one.or 4 I prepared earlier" ?
Seems plausible ,but we don't know for sure or ever will most likely.
\yes I read somewhere it looked they were properly trained for this and then get caught in Bryansk of all places ? nehhh
Is that why he murdered Navalny?Someone with the balls to tell the truth .
Isis-k are ruining the standard Russian narrative of "we blame the Nazis in Ukraine and ye olde Anglo-Saxons. Oh, and NATO encroachment".
The guardian published this:
“They saw us,” she told RT, a Russian state-funded news agency. “One of them ran back and started shooting at people. I fell to the floor and pretended to be dead. I was bleeding,” she said, pointing at her temple.
The gunmen opened fire into some of the bodies as they lay on the ground, she said.
“The girl lying next to me was killed.”
The gunmen then set fire to the hall, apparently hoping to kill all those left inside.
“Then the flames flared up. They closed the front door, but they probably couldn’t close the lock,” said the woman, who did not give her name. “I was lying under the door, breathing air. After some time, I crawled out, three minutes passed, maybe four. I looked around, crawled to the exit. I realised that there was no one there and went outside.”
Counter productive much? What's the point of interrogating them with questions and cutting off their ears?
No tears shed here anyway - the ordinary Russian citizen knows full well what their state is at after two years of barbarising their neighbour. Karma and all that.
You’re the deaf one mate. Lots of official statements out from countries including UK and US. No one is applauding terror attacks against innocent citizens despite russias hideous war in Ukraine.
What non-silence fits the standard?
The WH had made a statement within ~1-2 hours... What silence are you arguing?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/world-reaction-deadly-shooting-moscow-concert-hall-2024-03-22/
The west is hardly silent.
It would be a miracle if every victim of last night is a Russian citizen! Will there be different categories of victims?
Yes, it's odd. Normally these guys go in there expecting to die, which I imagine would be better than what awaits them in Russian custody.
Maybe the really scary thought is that the Russians won't believe it but will still just shrug their shoulders in a "our government doing what our government does,we expect no different" way and basically just accept that this is how it works
The surreal situation where Irish people tangentially cheer on IS terrorists in their emotive rush to see dead Russians.
Navalny was murdered (in my opinion) by Putin as a warning to any others who might be thinking of stepping over the line. The msg was "If I can kill a high-profile figure like Navalny, there's no one untouchable. Beware"
Looks like more Russians died to take it than the original population of the town.
If that's what Russians understand about Putin, they don't have a clue. That is Russian lie #1. Putin has murdered Russians, including civilians, merely to fuel his agenda, and ignored warnings from the West to protect Russian civilians. The West values Russian civilians more than Putin does.
And your second sentence is another Russian lie. Plain and simple. Under the NATO-Russia Founding Act, a Ukraine in NATO would not have meant that.
All Russia had to do was stick to its agreement with Ukraine under Budapest and it wouldn't have happened - by which Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in exchange for Russian guarantees of sovereignty and territorial integrity.
But nope, Russia instead sent in its scum into Ukraine instead - a pack of lying, murderous, looting, raping bunch of terrorists.
Of course, no matter what terrorism Russia and Putin resorts to, someone will always come along peddling Russian lies discrediting dozens of times already on the thread.
Thanks for giving me a good laugh there with that comrade.
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