Maybe If Russians stop attacking Ukraine they would be able to defend their own land?
Putin is already blaming Ukraine who again are innocent bystanders in all of this. At one point their Nazi's and now ISIS fighters, what's next? Putin has his awful silver lining in all of this and now he can justify attacking Ukraine more.
To even try to make out this in anyway resembles Hamas and Israel, shame on you. Prior to October Israel didn't invade Gaza where as Russians have invaded and terrorised a country and it's people that wanted to be free and look to the west.
You just have to look at the Bucha massacre to see what Russians are like
And don't come back and say ah this is just civilians, the the lack of empathy by the Russian people and lack of any protests etc, they are much to blame as Putin
Get a grip of yourself. You are condoning a direct attack on civilians.
This does not do Ukraine (or anyone else ) any good and it puts you to shame.
You are also idiotically playing into Putin's spin (or intent)
Maybe you were cheering the attack by Hamas on Israel too?
Maybe Russia should stop its terrorism in Ukraine, and focus on defending itself against people who actually want to murder its civilians, instead of peddling nonsense about Ukraine and NATO and nazis.
Putin as is proven is well capable of murdering and sacrificing innocents, whether Russian or Ukrainian, to further his agenda.
But Putin doesn't give a damn about innocents in Russia or anywhere, he is on an imperial war of conquest, plunder and rape in Ukraine. And that goes also to all those who enable Putin.
Bang on.
I'm sorry I have no sympathy for the Russians at all
It nice to see attacks on their own land alright at least they'll know what it feels for the poor Ukrainians that go through this every day.
If they're silent about it, who's your connect at the CIA?
True but being honest about it I think most posters here would be a lot sadder and annoyed had the attack been carried out against any other country! Not that I believe anything written in bibles etc but you do reap what you sow.
Do you consider the routine attacks by the Russian army on Ukrainian civilians positions and infrastructure terrorist actions?
No. We do not need more terrorist attacks in Russia or anywhere else for that matter.
A chance for Russia to get a smidgen of compassion…and Putin blows it by lying and linking the attack to Ukraine.
Yes.... Oui..... Ja... да
Ukraine has stated again and again that it does not deliberately target civilians, but this attack was a deliberate attack on civilians, so in my book anyway, whoever masterminded this attack, it definitely was not Ukraine. Plenty of other "usual suspects though, including Putin himself.
When you control the media landscape and there even a scintilla of scepticism about the war and its cost, it's easy enough to peddle a bullshít angle and stir the pot. Will be hard for the dissenters to speak loudly now, when the media will be blaming Ukraine for the massacre. Even here we have a drive-by trying to feign outrage.
Such nonsense isnt it.
Russians: who did this?
ISIS: it was us
Russians: must have been those Ukranians!!
ISIS: guys we did it!!
Russians: yeah, was definitely those Ukranian terrorists sponsored by the CIA and NATO
ISIS: ................
107 innocent civilians being murdered is convenient to Russia, really?
To plan a terrorist attack in Moscow, Ukraine would need sleeper cells in the city, probably living there for many months planning the attack (and even then, there is a high risk they might be caught). The idea that they would jump in car and drive to Moscow (and attempt to drive back to Ukraine!) is unadulterated nonsense.
Yes they're already spinning it as a Ukraine backed plot. It's pretty concerning because it's obviously leading to something...
The only positive thing is I presume no one in the West will fall for it and it will only underline what a dangerous and deranged force Putin's Russia has become and the need to stop them creating further havoc
Russia is first and foremost a police state. Check points are literally everywhere, and they are hard to avoid even on minor roads. Try driving 20 or 30 Klms in any direction without being stopped. And that's in "normal" times, after a situation like what has just happened in Moscow, these checkpoints will be increased, and it goes without saying that they will be even more heavily armed than they usually are.
It'll be interesting to see how this plays with actual Muslims in Russia:
I imagine Russia will spin Ukraine as the architects of this attack, and use it as an excuse to ramp up their bombardment.
No, they aren't typical Russian names, more like Caucasian republics.
Putin's about to give an address.....should be interesting
Ding ding ding
You don't want to be captured by the Russians. Torture then death. The shooters were not random guys off of telegram. They had training, they were calm and professional.
I don't believe that it was a false flag operation. However I do believe that the Kremlin are capable of twisting the real motives to suit their own goals.
So for example, say this was really carried out by ISIS or some other muslim fundamentalists because they are unhappy with the disproportionate burden being placed on Muslim Republics and satellite states (e.g. Tajikistan) in this war in Ukraine. Well the Kremlin can just contort the story to instead imply that they were paid off by Kyiv to carry out this attack. All they have to do is call ISIS a bunch of liars (for trying to claim it as their attack) and torture these captives until they'll say whatever they want them to say.
How the hell can people drive from Russia to Ukraine now anyway with the war going on?
If Putin is behind this "ISIS" attack then there's the very real possibility of more "ISIS" attacks in America and Europe to deflect from Putin's involvement whilst providing a vehicle for Russian terrorist attacks in Western Europe and America.
Intelligence agencies and governments will know of the background but official media will report ISIS.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.....
I think gay thoughts are terrorising putins brain
Like October 7 or September 11, I think it's a genuine surprise attack that will now be exploited by the rulers to pursue their criminal agenda further. A double insult to the dead and wounded to exploit their suffering
@.Donegal. Yip, i think we all see where this is going. They are constructing the story in front of the worlds eyes. And when its cooked properly putin will address the russian people. Prepare for angry putin with a long monologue diatribe type thing with treats and all sorts of escalations. The gloves are off type thing
Hmmm but using people with obviously Muslim names and appearance doesn't really tie in to the false flag narrative. They could just plant a bomb and parade a few Ukrainian pows and say they did it. Why give Isis the chance to plausibly claim responsibility in an attack that exactly replicates similar Isis attacks like in Paris? Doesn't really add up
yes exactly, and its terrible timing from a russian propaganda perspective a day after Russia sends missiles into Ukranian cities and power grid and a week after Putin election. Also be difficult for them now to arrange a narrative to implicate Ukraine because they don't know what else Isis or the US knows , the cat is now out of the bag anyway ,its a terrorist attack by islamists on Moscow, Putin cannot control this story
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