Highly probable you have the captured terrorists confessing live on TV to the Russian audience later Zelensky himself paid them to carry out this attack out of his own wallet. Okay maybe that's a stretch but i can easily see a scenario that this is twisted to blame Ukraine no matter what and justify a full mobilisation.
It's as much about softening the West's and more importantly Christian America's attitude to Russia.
Across social media last night were the messages from the Russian stooges with the Russian flag saying "We stand with Russia" and who thanked them? The clueless christian anti muslim or just clueless across the world. It doesn't matter that Russia is using 500kg bombs and are now building 3000kg bombs. That goes over the heads of these people as they can't relate to apartment buildings being blown up. But five guys with machine guns in a theatre that's recorded then that they can relate to and abhor. It's about bringing the conditions about that Trump will again be shaking hands with Putin and there won't be uproar from his voters in doing so.
Well, I am a bit suspicious about what happened in Moscow yesterday. I do not at all believe the Ukrainians were involved. How exactly did the Russians know who to arrest so fast after the event, and, why say they [bad guys] were going to Ukraine when they appeared to have been heading to Belarus? I will wait till more is known but it's all very convenient for the Kremlin right now. A harsh but true comment.
Absolutely all possible. They're writing a narrative that has to tie into the current narrative.
They might even claim the US and all NATO countries knew about the attack in advance and withheld intelligence from Moscow, and Ukraine supplied the weapons
Yip, said similar in my post above yours.
But lets also add this .. The possibility this event was a false flag and this was all arranged by putin. Its not as if he hasnt done this before. Even spreading false intelligence via US embassy who unwittingly played a part.
Russian MP Alexander Khinshtein claiming passports from Tajikistan were found in the suspects’ vehicle.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/two-suspects-moscow-attack-detained-after-car-chase-lawmaker-2024-03-23/
Hmmm but using people with obviously Muslim names and appearance doesn't really tie in to the false flag narrative. They could just plant a bomb and parade a few Ukrainian pows and say they did it. Why give Isis the chance to plausibly claim responsibility in an attack that exactly replicates similar Isis attacks like in Paris? Doesn't really add up
A bit of a ridiculous tale
yes exactly, and its terrible timing from a russian propaganda perspective a day after Russia sends missiles into Ukranian cities and power grid and a week after Putin election. Also be difficult for them now to arrange a narrative to implicate Ukraine because they don't know what else Isis or the US knows , the cat is now out of the bag anyway ,its a terrorist attack by islamists on Moscow, Putin cannot control this story
@.Donegal. Yip, i think we all see where this is going. They are constructing the story in front of the worlds eyes. And when its cooked properly putin will address the russian people. Prepare for angry putin with a long monologue diatribe type thing with treats and all sorts of escalations. The gloves are off type thing
Like October 7 or September 11, I think it's a genuine surprise attack that will now be exploited by the rulers to pursue their criminal agenda further. A double insult to the dead and wounded to exploit their suffering
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.....
I think gay thoughts are terrorising putins brain
If Putin is behind this "ISIS" attack then there's the very real possibility of more "ISIS" attacks in America and Europe to deflect from Putin's involvement whilst providing a vehicle for Russian terrorist attacks in Western Europe and America.
Intelligence agencies and governments will know of the background but official media will report ISIS.
How the hell can people drive from Russia to Ukraine now anyway with the war going on?
I don't believe that it was a false flag operation. However I do believe that the Kremlin are capable of twisting the real motives to suit their own goals.
So for example, say this was really carried out by ISIS or some other muslim fundamentalists because they are unhappy with the disproportionate burden being placed on Muslim Republics and satellite states (e.g. Tajikistan) in this war in Ukraine. Well the Kremlin can just contort the story to instead imply that they were paid off by Kyiv to carry out this attack. All they have to do is call ISIS a bunch of liars (for trying to claim it as their attack) and torture these captives until they'll say whatever they want them to say.
You don't want to be captured by the Russians. Torture then death. The shooters were not random guys off of telegram. They had training, they were calm and professional.
Ding ding ding
Putin's about to give an address.....should be interesting
No, they aren't typical Russian names, more like Caucasian republics.
I imagine Russia will spin Ukraine as the architects of this attack, and use it as an excuse to ramp up their bombardment.
It'll be interesting to see how this plays with actual Muslims in Russia:
Russia is first and foremost a police state. Check points are literally everywhere, and they are hard to avoid even on minor roads. Try driving 20 or 30 Klms in any direction without being stopped. And that's in "normal" times, after a situation like what has just happened in Moscow, these checkpoints will be increased, and it goes without saying that they will be even more heavily armed than they usually are.
Yes they're already spinning it as a Ukraine backed plot. It's pretty concerning because it's obviously leading to something...
The only positive thing is I presume no one in the West will fall for it and it will only underline what a dangerous and deranged force Putin's Russia has become and the need to stop them creating further havoc
To plan a terrorist attack in Moscow, Ukraine would need sleeper cells in the city, probably living there for many months planning the attack (and even then, there is a high risk they might be caught). The idea that they would jump in car and drive to Moscow (and attempt to drive back to Ukraine!) is unadulterated nonsense.
107 innocent civilians being murdered is convenient to Russia, really?
Such nonsense isnt it.
Russians: who did this?
ISIS: it was us
Russians: must have been those Ukranians!!
ISIS: guys we did it!!
Russians: yeah, was definitely those Ukranian terrorists sponsored by the CIA and NATO
ISIS: ................
When you control the media landscape and there even a scintilla of scepticism about the war and its cost, it's easy enough to peddle a bullshít angle and stir the pot. Will be hard for the dissenters to speak loudly now, when the media will be blaming Ukraine for the massacre. Even here we have a drive-by trying to feign outrage.
Ukraine has stated again and again that it does not deliberately target civilians, but this attack was a deliberate attack on civilians, so in my book anyway, whoever masterminded this attack, it definitely was not Ukraine. Plenty of other "usual suspects though, including Putin himself.
Yes.... Oui..... Ja... да
A chance for Russia to get a smidgen of compassion…and Putin blows it by lying and linking the attack to Ukraine.
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