anyone ever try Gstaad LM 4366 from Eurogene? His latest evaluation is 1.9% CD and 40kg carcass weight. Carries 2x F94L.
Kjb X rio cow. Had a terrible lm calf last year as a heifer as she'd no milk. Seems to have bagged down a good bit better this year.
On last night
I found him (Keltic Rembrandt) grand for cows anyway. His calves are nice and quiet too.
I see Dovea Genetics are having a beef breeding webinar tomorrow at 8pm, the link is on their facebook page. It should be interesting.
Is he easy calved would he suit BBxFr second callers not the biggest stock not gona put CH on them. He has a lot of size to throw the calves up as well
Best f94l gene lim bulls out there for 2nd calvers onwards? Any company and terminal/ replacement or both.
I bought 2 cows (Rio & hca) in calf to powerful proper. Two very very plain calves so far.
Haven't been a fan of Munster bulls for a few years but liked the breeding of Rembrandt last year and got Rigby through Gene Ireland.
About 10 Rembrandt on the ground and so far both bulls and heifers are streets ahead of the Rigby's in my view. Find I've been losing size in the Limousines the past few years and feel the Foreman breeding ( Rembrandt's dam is a Foreman) will potentially help start to correct that. Calves on the ground so far are a step in the right direction!!!
Have put him on cows hoping for replacement heifers
I found Keltic Rembrandt (LM8259) good too.
They have two now in progressives. Don’t know anything about the lisna some bull but would think sir would work well on a taller type cow. I find with progressives they tend to get a bull of say lisna or ardlea and they tend to return to them as assumed to getting a bull in France or something. Maybe it’s just me. Overall I have no complaints with any of there bulls.
I was at a Lisna pedigree heifer sale a few years back in Gort Mart. Really nice quality all round.
I was told that lisna sir is a serious quality bull. have very good quality calves this year from proper and knell.
used Rigby here too. Him, Rolex and Shannon Stan seem to be their main bulls but none of them proven.
Sorry Rolex looks good too.
Was talking to a local Dovea Ai tech last week, he reckons that Stouphill Bomber is breeding quality stock, he thinks he’s a great bull. He likes Bunlahy John G but he’d be harder calved. Goulding Man oh Man from NCBC carries the double muscle gene, might be worth a look. Those Ballyart bulls and the likes of Westellen Diageo from Bova are another option. I like the look of Drumcrow Reeko from bullbank, he’s €30/straw tho. I’m sure there are others, best ring around a few breeding advisors from the different companies.
A lot of Angus breeding has gone down the road of short gestation very easy calving runts of bulls for the dairy herd in recent years, you’d want to avoid those kind of bulls imo.
Have calves off Rigby & Rolex, nice calves
The same Rigby was the only one that stood out.
Not a good selection, gonna try ardlea rigby on a few 2nd calvers this year to see how he goes. Will use mainly dovea and bova bulls as a better selection.
What AA breeding is providing quality over last few years. Have been going LM road solely and not up to date on AA but want to try a few this season
Agree what your saying about BBx cows, had them here with the lim bull for a couple of years, found different type calf every year with them, one year a great muscle calf E or U grade the following year an R grade calf. Some were put to the Charolais bull and a grey coloured calf and not a great seller, calf colour sells the weanlings at the end of the day,
What progressive genetics lim bulls are lads using on cows? Selection seems poor enough for terminal sires.
Thanks HK didn't know that
From what i’ve seen of BBX cows, the problem with them is that you never know what kind of calf you’re going to get, you could get a small plain calf or a massive calf with loads of muscle. A neighbour of mine used to cross a CH stock bull on some BBX cows, helped him jack the biggest bull calf i’ve ever seen one night, broke the calfs leg jacking him, calf died then, should have sectioned her, must have been 80kgs plus, two of us could hardly move him, he puts Saler bulls on the bluex cows now and has more out of them, some lovely roan heifers.
Majority of growth in last trimester. Do think rationing feed makes a big difference. Used to have cows Ad lib on silage years ago and the calfs would be big soft tanks. You would need a crane to lift the hoors. Maybe the smart farmer meant something else about the breeding but if he was referring to growth rate I think he is off the mark.
we give hay in last trimester and have found calves are no smaller even with reduced quantities. A fairly smart farmer told me recently that the calf size is determined in the first trimester.
Would over feeding in the last trimester not have a bigger impact, or are you thinking about laying down fat in birth canal.
Have an Orbi calf off a Charolais heifer, who was 285 days & small. Developing well. CHxCH is bone, CHxBB/LM is bone x muscle, If those heifers calved pre 290 days I’d give a chance but make sure they’re fit @ calving. Also don’t overfeed in first trimester too
Orbi is a Q gene carrier. Blues are going to be NT carriers. Could be looking at big birth weights with them 2 crossing. Charolais bone and Blue muscle, serious calves but you might earn it
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