Posted this on another forum too
There’s an old neighbour here who has a great saying about the Teagasc boys, all in the book and none in the hands( work)And still very true to this day.
The advisors regard themselves as far smarter than they really are, and at the same time regard the farmer as far more stupid than we really are.
Before I was a farmer in my own name, I was far smarter than my father who ran the show. I could tell him what to buy and what to do.
When I became a farmer in my own name. I spent my money till it was near gone. He's making more money than I am now and doing one tenth of the work. He's now smarter than I am.
Dolly Parton could put that to 🎶 music 🎶.
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I'll tell ya lads this is one miserable bastard of a spring .......and were not even halfway through it round here 😒 🙄
I'm starting to wonder about "pushing on" anymore. I'm relatively young for a dairy farmer and have a put big investment into the farm over the years. Maybe it's time to reduce numbers, on farm investment and workload. Whos benefitting anyway...
Put his foot on the clutch pedal. Select a suitable gear to take off at depending on load. Check mirrors. Take foot off clutch pedal and go.
The tax man
The thing that madding me, was in my last discussion group, we were not allowed to mention costs.
Grass, grass grass grass grass grass.
I brought up that I was paying so much for meal and the price I was paying for fertilizer. I was nearly asked to leave when I suggested we compare prices.
When I told him, that I would not do a profit monitor as it was none of Teagasc fuuucking business and could I see his payslips, Infront of the group, I don't think he liked it.
So when the £750 finished, I finished
Don’t do pm and won’t ….waste of an exercise even comparing in a group of differing herd sizes ,differing systems etc is pointless ….some lads follow the gospel more don’t….there’s no need to be worrying about everyone else worry about your own figures and where your going year on year
Same line of thinking here. Could carry more cows but would have to invest alot as yard is maxed out. Need more slurry storage anyway just to stand still. Regardless of 2023 being bad, a good few things went wrong here. Chief says if I got through last year I'll be alright. Positive words but I'm starting to question what I'm doing here
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Is it not worthwhile knowing your costs of production?
Yes I agree but...... its these things that are being used to hammer the whole industry. And I for one am sick of it
Don’t need profit monitor to tell that
Said it for years …brought it up at various Tegasc events and to people within Tegasc ….there too loose with info …and those figures are used against us and they wonder why more don’t complete a pm …
Hundred percent walked away from all the groups years ago
They're not. Figures they've used are from other sources.
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Find anything that references profit monitors. In the last 3 years I've only seen figures being quoted from national farm survey, signpost farms, coop monitor farms and IFAC.
Them coop monitor reports are another load of bollix too ....... why in the name of sweet Jesus are we allowing them free loaders (anyone involved in agriculture not physically working ) Firstly access to out information and secondly allowing them to use it to harm the profitability of our business. Surely you cannot be in agreement with it
Im in a private group aswell as a teagasc group
wouldn’t have a notion of doing a profit monitor and giving it to teagasc but I do do a cost comparison for my other group using a different program. Absolutely essential imo. Really shows up the areas you’re good at and the ones you need to improve when you compare it to others
and before someone says “ppl don’t put accurate figures in “ that’s bs, you’ll get questioned if yours are way better than the rest and you better be able to explain yourself or you’ll be called out on it
It's your choice. And controlling costs is vital to making a profit, it was Teagasc that I was moaning about. Giving them every detail about your farm, while they are in a room with civil servants planning and scheming about the next rules and regulations they can fire at farmers.
Anyway I give money to my accountant to do the accounts and I can see my costs there. I have never seen my current account go down like the past 12 months, I was wondering today would i bother replacing the handle of the four prong pike, or cut a branch for it instead.
I think we are all fed up with weather, calf's, cows jumping inside, Shiite in the yard, politicians
I wonder will it turn out like 2012 and stay bad for a other 13 months....
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I was looking at the long range forecast on AccuWeather. Take with a big pinch of Himalayan salt. I hope it's wrong.
Rest of March is bad.
April clearing up
May mostly clear.
Forecast goes to 20th June, only two days shows no rain/thunder.
Is there not a synopsis of what it’s costing farmers to produce milk ..meal costs ..fertiliser costs …cost of production published by them yearly 🤔🤔my coop has got in on the act and is now using it to determine a figure as to which our board and representative committee members have to trade to to keep tgeee seats ….and both are ridocolusly high figures …in a previous job I was involved in 2 trade surveys and a company is more than industry in what customers and rivals are doing in all aspects of there business
Fair enough …..I just can’t get over the fascination done have with everyone else ….what’s the point comparing costs unless for very similar systems …..you’ve fed a lot of maize/whole crop,heavily stocked suffer droughts now your z grazing what’spoint comparing against someone doing less or none of those …..set your own goals improve your own farm year on year and see where the gaps are….that’s what matters not what anyone else is doing …I like going to see other farms to see the cows how they manage them ,how they manage grass ,make quality forage and enough of it ,soil fertility .manage there time etc zero interest in financial figures
Yes, based on info from the other sources. They got a serious wrap on the knuckles about 4 years ago on GDPR issues and haven't seen PM figures bulked for publication since. IFAC similarly should not be doing what they're doing currently.
A prominant private advisor has recently gone down this road as well and presented a paper at a womens conference, based on the average figures from her discussion groups. While done on her template, use of the data ourside if the purpose for which is was collected is again wrong.
Because a lot of costs are still comparable despite the system
there’s no point in doing a great job of getting the milk and then loosing out by spending too much in other areas if it’s possible to improve something
