How can NATO / Europe and Putin engage in conflict without it escalating to nuclear weapons?
It doesn't make sense.
This isn't the 1910s or 1940s where military combat was about conventional forces staring each other down across trenches.
A conflict between Europe / NATO and Putin could only be fought with advanced and devastatingly destructive weaponry.
Here's the Russian one, would wait to hear from a Western source.
https://tass.com/politics/1762083
The Russians are already saying that they are fighting NATO. They can't complain.
This might give Putin an opportunity to say 'NATO is attacking us' so he could then call for a general mobilization. Whose side is Macron on?
Not directly though.
When Putin speaks of that, he seems to be speaking about indirect involvement.
I just read Medvedev's latest tweet and I just cannot see how normal diplomacy can return between Russia and the West; the former seems absolutely hell-bent on causing mass destruction to achieve their deluded aims.
Also
That's not a source lol.
Would TASS do?
I wonder is Macrons turn to do with some of Frances former colony s being undermined by the russians
Eh no
Would be useful if you post a credible source other than a Russian gobshite.
France’s defence ministry on Tuesday called remarks made by the chief of Russia’s foreign intelligence service disinformation and irresponsible after he suggested Paris was preparing to send 2,000 troops to Ukraine, reports Reuters.
“The manoeuvre orchestrated by Sergei Naryshkin, director of Russian foreign intelligence, once again illustrates Russia’s systematic use of disinformation,” the defence ministry said in a statement. “We consider this type of provocation irresponsible.”
Whatever about the 2,000 being true or not there was also this..
And this is the type of BS spouted by the Kremlin and parroted by their followers of escalation to prevent any help from reaching Ukraine.
We're years into this now and people are still fainting with this escalation nonsense. Putin escalated when their forces invaded Ukraine. Everything after to help Ukraine is REACTIONARY not escalation.
European citizens giving their lives to help Ukraine is reaction.
Wouldn't it be something else to hear some Kremlin mouthpiece in some far off embassy in the world tell of the reactionary forces entering Ukraine to save it from the escalationary Russian forces.🙄 Because of you know Humanitarian decency and the right of countries to exist and not be bludgeoned to death to become Russia.
These are opinion pieces not sources. Posting "France are sending 2k troops to Ukraine" like it's a fact is misleading.
nice one germany
Germany pledges new ~500 million euro package for Ukraine | Fast. Informed. - German Aid to Ukraine
kosovo helping out
Kosovo will send two packages of military aid to Ukraine - Ukraine News(Euroasia) - Quora
You misquoted me what I posted was in fact
'Macron prepared to send 2,000 troops'
and
quoting the Utube article in my post
'2,000 French soldiers on the way?'
Anyway, it is not true that France will send 2000 troops. French officials confirmed it.
One scenario is if the US leaves NATO but still gives them a security guarantee if Russia uses nuclear weapons. It would mean that Russia is free to try what they can by conventional means.
Another is a limited use of nuclear weapons which deters further use on either or both sides.
Don't know why he'd sent troops but won't send weapons. Sure its cheaper, but is far more of an escalation than sending 20 more Ceasars.
The thinktank, the Institute for the Study of War, released its latest assessment overnight saying that "several Russian financial, economic, and military indicators suggest that Russia is preparing for a large-scale conventional conflict with NATO, not imminently but likely on a shorter timeline than what some Western analysts have initially posited".
They should have depleted them in Ukraine when they had the chance and they still have that chance if they ramp up now but we humans have a habit of sleepwalking into large catastrophes that we get ample forewarning off.
The poles will wipe them out easily on their own,, paper doesn't refuse ink , there's no way Putin is considering that.
Many analysts saying that russia has wasted its recent offensive gains by moving forces away from the four main thrust points and spread themselves along the front thinly again.
Could be they see the ammo arriving to Ukraine soon will pound any mass concentrations of forces to smitereens.
Also in some spots they have reached the limit of what the terrain can give them and are restricted by rivers, valleys and dense forests.
Saw a video on Reddit this morning of the new airburst drone killing two russians. It's basically a flying claymore mine and kills instantly, no writhing around just stone dead.
Wonder what they will be tasked with? Probably border patrols near Belarus. Still, it will free up Ukranian soldiers and any French casualties will cause an uproar.
It's quite simple. By fighting a war in a third party country where neither is trying to invade or conquer the other.
Sending troops to Ukraine is never going to happen. The west won't even back Ukraine to the degree needed in terms of financial aid or weaponry.
last night shoigu announced the creation of 2 new ground armies, with 16 new brigades & 14 new divisions. for context that's larger than the combined armies of britain, france, germany, poland, spain, netherlands and sweden. mass mobilisation is on the way.
the question though is how will they equip them. in terms of bmp's they will run out in the next 12 to 24 months if the current rate of attrition keeps up. they simply cannot produce anywhere near enough numbers to replace and their ex-soviet supplies are dwindling by the day. as things stand offensive operations in the summer will be a real struggle for the russians.
I also don't see what they have left to attack with, but that's not to say that the Lord of the Vatniks will not at least try to inflict very heavy damage out of sheer spite, especially if he feels that it's a Berlin in April 1945 scenario.
I'm surprised the inner elite circle of Putin and the military heads would allow that to happen. Russia cannot win either a conventional war against NATO, never mind a nuclear one.
It makes no sense to allow Putin to embark on a senseless, unwinnable war for the Russians.
I think mass mobilisation may be the final red line for the Russian public, too.
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