I thought he would get some jail time especially since he ran from the cops and pleaded not guilty.
He's very lucky, but not a great role model for young gaa fans.
Yes most people have made some mistakes and have regrets.
But then again most people haven't tried to kick the head off someone on the ground.
There is a hell of a difference at having a pop at someone verbally and kicking the head off them when lying on the ground.
I hope you know the difference.
Not alone is he scumbag, he is gutless.
Kicking someone on the ground is gutless, not some great brave act.
And to add to it he ran away and then hadn't the balls to admit his guilt in court like a real man.
As someone that once lived in Limerick and saw how long Limerick fans desired for the seniors to make it, I wanted them to win those All Irelands.
Now I would even rather Kilkenny win if this is the standard of Limerick fans, players and managers.
Tiger Woods shagged other women than his wife.
He didn't kick or lead other people to kick a guy on the ground facturing their eye socket.
The GAA are mighty good at continously shoving shyte down our throats about what they do for communities whenever it is time to look for handouts.
A lot of GAA clubs have always been hiding places for scumbags, all because they are great men on the pitch.
One of the most prominent members of the the best and biggest hurling team in the country is a gutless scrote who kicks defenseless guys on the ground, then runs away and then in open court hasn't the balls to admit his guilt is not a good look.
Ah but sure isn't he a great hurler.
Bizarre that KK are second favourites...........and amazing that Cork don't feature in top 4...? The guy who started the 'Cork Enigma' thread must be really scratching his head..?
Have they ever been warmer favourites?
Limerick 8/11
Kilkenny 13/2
Galway 7/1
Clare 8/1
It could also drive them on .
Could this be the end of limerick’s 5 in a row aspirations. ….?
There were always fellas trying to get him to lash out. Can't see how this year would be any different.
I'd say his odds for getting red cards this year will be slashed.
He'll be getting none stop abuse and rightly so
Jails are full...if someone is put in jail they have to release someone else on license who could be a worse individual ,
Killing someone is the only way you definetly go to jail these days
Some Ex league of Ireland Soccer player also in papers yesterday getting suspended sentence for breaking a persons jaw......
Its not only Limerick players. If drug testing was brought into GAA a lot of players would be fu#ked. Both club and county
I suspect he'll be hearing the line "Don't you know who I am" a lot
A. John Leahy pleaded guilty. He didn’t plead innocent. So the comparison doesn’t work and ends there.
B. John Leahy entered an addiction clinic well before the court case. He got clean and stayed clean and became an addiction councillor. Turned his life around.
They will that's a guarantee and he will be closely monitored by players and officials.
You’d wonder if there’ll be lads trying to get him to lash out over the championship just for this reason, if Keily wanted to show leadership to his team Hayes should be dropped imo.
You'd want to see the carry on of the Limerick players, well some in Alfie Earls Pub in Limerick.
Weekly drugs test should be mandatory if playing.
You'd wonder about the legality of any violent acts on the hurling pitch, for somebody serving a suspended sentence for violent disorder.
As an example he struck a Galway player across the head with his hurley in last year's league. You'd be looking at this stuff in a different light.
I'm digressing a bit here, but 30 years ago GAA was played much more as a hobby and training/preparation was less all-encompassing. Lads turned up and the manager and selectors basically just picked the team. Maybe everyone goes for a few pints after. Sport is a release from any personal issues you might be having.
Now it's more like a cult almost, with group "buy-in", "values", "marginal gains" and such phrases. Stats teams. Visualization exercises. They even have psychologists talking to them about what it means to represent their county/club, to their family, their community and so on.
Your whole life is put on-hold for a few years, but you're not in it alone and "the group" shares your values and goals, and becomes almost like your family. You probably see them more than your own family.
Which might explain why Cody or modern managers would not accept such disruption and noise around the group, and breach of values. You might lose a good player or two, but you retain the integrity of the group. Jim McGuinness also comes to mind.
banned from county for duration of punishment. Hardly that radical, actually something the GAA could look to get out in front of . There might be worse combos of Hayes and Kiely to come.
Are you suggesting banned from playing club or county for life if given a suspended sentence/actual jail time…?
One is 30 years ago , not sure about the other. But both shouldn’t have been allowed to play tbh. It’s a privilege playing for your county. having a suspended sentence for battering someone should make you ineligible in my opinion. At least for the duration of the punishment.
Not sure if this is a good comparison but I’m throwing it out there in any case. Didn’t a former tipp player get in serious bother with the law back in 90’s and continued to be selected and play inter county……there was also a former waterford player involved in something very unsavoury also yet continued to play. What Hayes did is inexcusable but is he being judged too harshly here….?
Which is a pretty poor outlook to have for an amateur sport. I think they’ve both done themselves irrevocable damage.
Said the same on another thread. If a player did that under Cody they'd never see the inside of a dressing room with him again. Indeed players were dropped for considerably less in his time. For him you were representing the county at all times and that meant something to him. Kiely showed his priorities here. Character means nothing on that squad, only results.
Exactly you can be good at sports and still be a crap person and Kyle Hayes is exactly that imo. I would have some respect for him if he showed some remorse for his actions or pleaded guilty. He did neither of these things though. None of us are perfect but i've never hit a person and ran away like a coward either.
Shure, it's all part of the game Marty.
Not!
To send a strong message that behaviour off the pitch is important, LimericK GAA or Indeed Croke Park itself, should immediately ban him from competition for the duration of his suspended criminal sentence
The GAA has a real problem with aggression and violence and they need to step up now and say they expect more on and off the field.
What a twisted view
can you elaborate/clarify how race comes into this……or are you being ultra sarcastic…?
His choice of flag for his avatar tells you alot.
So you said that talk is cheap. Do you believe Hayes is not a scxmbag for assaulting that man in the manner he did and deny it after Gardai saw what he did?
Are you happy with the way the court dealt with it and the way he walks away scot free where another man that wouldn't be as of a high profile gaa player gets done for alot less? He got away because there was corruption involved simple as. The ordinary man in society would never get away with that simple as and rightly so.
Yes the law is very fair.
