Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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Still no morning murder theories?
I don't think I said any such thing. All I said was that, as no one appeared to have checked, there was a possibility she may have still been alive. Even I can't tell whether someone was alive just from looking at photos. I think I also shared a link to the case of Josie Russell to illustrate my point but I'm guessing you're ignoring that.
I have never claimed to be a pathologist or anything like. I was a forensic investigator. I have however been involved in the investigation of many major crimes and attended countless post-mortems. As a result I have a network of friends, colleagues and acquaintances who have been happy to give their opinion on this case.
And still no evidence to back up the "more viable suspects" assertion either!
We live in hope!
No. They have not done it officially they have done it as a favour to me. If you choose not to believe me that is entirely your perogative.
I can't add what there isn't evidence to support.
AFAIK there is nothing that would lead to the conclusion that the assault started at the house or that there was any significant encounter at the house.
As for theories for the motive - without supporting evidence they would be no more than uninformed guesswork.
If we don't know what happened with / to the axe there's no use in speculating.
It is more beneficial to work forwards from what is known and what can be proven or disproven than engage in unsupported speculation.
It doesn't work that way Bridget.
Anyone can cite "friends and colleagues" and their opinions. Its meaningless. Everyone has a theory, they are ten a penny.
But when you come over to Ireland, and assert for example "blood pattern analysis indicates the block was in situ.." the least all of us would expect is formal written evidence and the name or names of these experts.
Attending post mortems and performing post mortems are two completely different things. To perform a post mortem you have to be medically qualified. To analyse and interpret a post mortem like wise. You have no medical training.
You are right, until I see names and reports, I don't believe you. Nor would anyone expect to.
Leave the poor woman alone. She's dead. An unfortunate murder victim.
We don't need someone coming here citing un-named experts that you are unwilling to name and offering it as some sort of breakthrough.
This is not justice for Sophie.
How on earth the Irish media didn't challenge this or who your sources were is beyond me.
Jaysus why bother posting then
Ya do realise most of.this thread is speculation
Did you actually read the case of Josie Russell. It has nothing to do with post mortems it is to do with a child who was assumed to be dead like her mother and sister and left lying where she had fallen. She, like Sophie, had massive head injuries and was covered in blood. But actually she was alive. No one had checked, a police officer just happened to notice the "body" twitch. She, against all the odds, survived.
A disagreement with a person or persons unknown for a reason or reasons unknown.
Is there evidence to support something more specific?
An interesting read -a whole Reddit thread on AL
Also an article from 2022 cold case review reporting Gardai exploring a “grudge” theory - certainly the murder feels that a grudge could well be a factor - whatever the reason it shows the folly staying myopic on this case. And also what struck me was, given Baileys lack of documented real contact with Sophie, how much Bailey is clearly a square peg being shoved into a round hole
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/garda-probe-grudge-theory-plan-28525688.amp
https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderAtTheCottage/comments/wkgh89/alfie_lyons/
This must be some other @tobefrank321 I assume.
What is the conclusive evidence pointing to a middle of the night murder?
That's what were here to discuss theories and ideas etc.
Evidence is sorely lacking in this case
May as well close the thread if all we are to discuss is evidence
Nope Bridget. Its me alright.
Care to name these experts? I'm sure they wouldn't mind defending their theses, seeing as they have already had you air them in Irish media.
If we follow your logic
Sophie was killed during the night or morning
We don't know who killed her
Close thread..
Nice try
As I'm sure you know by now conclusive evidence is thin on the ground here
I wouldn't give you the satisfaction.
As regards your own "personal opinion" Bridget, unfortunately or rather fortunately it's not all that important.
There's a reason pathologists get a medical degree and perform hundreds of autopsies and we value their opinion.
The day we take pathology advice from a randomer with no actual experience of performing autopsies will be a dangerous day indeed.
Any evidence seems to have been
" misplaced"
I see this thread pop up again and again, round and round, difficult to differentiate the first page from the last, fair to all in their dedication to speculation...
I'm just putting your question back at you!
You've lost me
There's no conclusive evidence of time of death
I'd be surprised if I suggested otherwise
I merely surmised it was likely a nite killing
I didn't sign up for this. I signed up because I passionately believe that this investigation was flawed and that opportunities still exist to resolve it and to find justice for Sophie. I have no problem with people disagreeing with me if they produce reasoned and rational arguments. But personal attacks are not acceptable and I find them deeply upsetting. Your last few posts are tantamount to bullying and that I will not put up with.
She was hit with a hammer.
She didn't have a rock or block driven into her skull countless times in an overkill fashion.
Leave the medical stuff to the actual experts in that field Bridget.
Ignore it B.
They are absolutely not bullying.
I have simply and politely asked you to forward the names of the experts who advised you on the blood pattern analyses and for the theses the block was in situ.
At least you have acknowledged you are not a pathologist, and therefore not qualified as an expert to make judgements on such matters.
Do you now withdraw all suggestions that Professor Harbison, a good man and a very decent man, made a mistake and admit you don't actually have evidence or expertise to support your theses?
Without the evidence of actual experts, we are left with your personal opinion only.
How do I complain about this. I'm in tears. It is not acceptable.
It was simply in reply to...
You're making an unreasonable request
Maybe just leave it
I'm sure you know what point you're making I don't get it
I posted a theory as to what happened that nite
I asked was there any theories as to the morning death