I can fully understand why people wouldn’t go into a park after dark. Imagine you sit down on a bench, it flips over on top of you and you’re trapped! Nobody would see you in the dark and you could be trapped until dawn the following day.
Is there not a bus stop further down Georges St towards Monkstown, as part of LS?
Access to the hospital is also retained for cars afaik.
The pedestrianisation starts after the hospital turn, if you are walking towards Peoples Park.
LOL your cognitive dissonance abilities are impressive.
But lets ignore how much you seem to hate people who don't have exactly the same values and priorities as you do for a minute and delve into your alternate reality a bit more. Why is this proposed pedestrianised street any different to say Grafton st and the many surrounding pedestrian streets or Galways High St and Shop St?
Why is every pedestrianised area of every city in the world not rife with violent crime based on your mad scenarios?
Who do you think should be funding the provision of parking facilities for those drivers Maisie? Surely you're not suggesting that shops should be getting ALL customers to pay a bit more to subsidise parking for the mostly better off customers with cars?
So eh @Larbre34 , any news?
His high level political contacts aren’t returning his calls
A simple google would show you the plans for Myrtle Sq.
he vanished after his Fairview debacle too lol, it's beautiful
I’m sure he’ll be back to bloviate about the local/European elections, if not the Ireland v Scotland match this weekend.
The E Spine will launch in summer 2024 hopefully and the E2 (replacing the 46a on the south side) should be a 24 hour service.
It is only served by a local community bus route, the 63 which will be replaced by the L27 under the next phase of BusConnects.
That is precisely the sort of bus route that should serve Monkstown Farm or do you think that the people there are less deserving of a bus service than everyone else?
Which roads constitute Monkstown Farm?
Is the L27 due this year do we know?
It is a road in its own right. Yes it is.
Thanks. Werent a lot of the BusConnects routes due to use Georges St to turnback?
Is this not now impacted by living streets being approved?
I think the council officials should offer their carpark up, why does a local authority situated opposite a Dart line and on a bus connect route need staff parking.
How many spaces are in that carpark does anyone know and are the council renting other car parking spaces in DL, I mean surely if you are telling the local residents they should walk or cycle then lead by example.
That space can be converted to a lock up bicycle park, wonder why one of the Green councillors hasnt suggested this.
If you want to attract better off customers then provide subsidised parking.
Simple as….
Nothing more than there is there now.
They’ll turn at the roundabout at the harbour and route along Crofton Road and Clarence Street to access York Road and Cinnamon Road / Monkstown Crescent.
Extra stops will be added along that section of the route.
Additional bus stands and a turning point will be added on Harbour Road outside the old ferry terminal for the routes terminating in DL from the Sallynoggin/Dalkey direction.
So the less well off customers will be subsidising the free parking for the better off customers? The customers who walk or cycle or take the bus have to pay a share of the parking costs for the car they can't afford or choose not to own - that's a bit twisted, isn't it?
It seems like the operators of Dundrum Town Centre, Liffey Valley, Pavilions, Whitewater and many others take a different view.
It should be called "Dying Streets".
All I see is lowlifes hanging around near the church,
and similar types hanging out with the shopping centre security staff.
If you're waiting on public funds to be spend on subsidising better off customers of private businesses, I can only suggest that you don't hold your breath. Unless you've been asleep for the last twenty years, you'll have noticed that public policy is going the entirely opposite direction to what you're suggesting.
Sorry, love to chat with you but have to wash my hair
No problem. Make sure you don't fall under any benches while you're at it.
The time to get to other stops from monkstown farm is minimal vs. the time wasted for the bus to go through monkstown farm, it kills the services utility (and we use it daily).
If traffic cant go down Georges St wont Marine Road be blocked all day, how will buses be able to turn anywhete.
I wouldnt drive into the cinema carpark, awful entry and exit, no way and neither would my friend.
I suggested the seafront but she likes to put shopping back into the car as she is recovering from major surgery, she said she wasnt carrying shopping to the seafront. She parks the car in Tesco and goes back and forward to it with shopping.
I really dont think you understand how difficult life is for some people, the elderly and the unwell have been whitewashed from this plan, look at the montage, middle aged man in shorts walking bike, young woman drinking het lattee, various others strolling around, sun shining, (what is it with middleaged men on bikes in shorts),everyone else in the montage is warmly dressed.Is this some new fad, do they think it makes them look manly, it doesnt, they look a bit simple.
The range of shops in DL attract older people so you have got to make it easy for them to travel there,they wouldnt cycle if you put a cycle lane from the front door to shaws.
Showing young able bodied people when promoting living streets is pointless unless all you want is lattee drinkers, the younger people shop in Zara, River Island, Pull and Bear etc, there is very little to draw them to DL so putting out the message that DL doesnt want people driving to it will kill the businesses that must to be struggling now.
And Bus Connects wasnt even given a chance before the roadworks on Stillorgan Park started, why would you deliberately narrow a road so buses cant move efficiently when you are spending millions encouraging people to use this bus service.
It makes no sense.
And this is an attempt to reverse that. Given that the old way clearly wasn't working something different is needed.
Bloomfield SC? I'll bet I know the security guard you're on about.
Tesco offer validated parking for a €30 spend, it's all too easy to spend €30.
You do the elderly a great disservice, a great many of them are willing to take a bike and go about their business, particularly now with e-bikes that do most of the hard work.
1. Most elderly people are quite happy to catch a bus to their destination, especially if you are travelling from Monkstown of all places
2. Even if you do choose to drive, there are several options available to you which are fwiw, entirely unaffected by the Living Streets plan.
Again the 63 is a local community bus route.
Those sorts of routes are there to provide a bus service to everyone especially the elderly and mobility impaired who may not be as agile as you are.
It was one thing removing the 75 and later the 46a, but removing this service as well from Monkstown Farm would I suspect go down locally like a lead balloon. Are they any less deserving of a bus than you?
If it’s that much of an issue for you, why don’t you switch to a 46a at Baker’s Corner or an L25 on Monkstown Avenue?
Didn’t Oisín Smith covert his parking spot to a bike space ?
https://irishcycle.com/2018/08/20/mayor-replaces-reserved-parking-spot-with-10-bicycle-parking-places/comment-page-1/
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