Exactly just like the last 10 RWC QF games Ireland were involved in. How I forgot that???
How many missed tackles did we have v england ? Well over is 25 my guess. The Scotland backs going for a triple crown, could tear us apart.
I wonder who'll come in for Nash. Stockdale was one of the players who warmed up at the weekend although I'd have thought Larmour would cover more positions.
Then either Ringrose or Henshaw on the bench i suppose.
I don't see ringrose on the wing as being something that's part of the plan at the outset.
Lost twice when heavily favored.
When the referee sees that you're trying to kill the game with a minute to go, the chances of conceding a penalty increases drastically. You'll be penalised for the slightest infringement that would often be let go, because referees don't want teams killing the game. Think back to the final play v NZ in 2013. It amazes me how so few people seem to appreciate this. Ireland did an awful lot wrong on Saturday but kicking the ball in that situation wasn't one of them. Literally any team in the same situation would have done the same. The bugger issue was how we allowed them to walk 50 metres up the pitch with ease.
They weren't favoured heavily versus NZL, the handicap has -4.
this might be one of the harbingers of the apocalypse but youre completely right here, the amount of absolute BS that is being spoken about murray on here and elsewhere is showing up 'fans' knowledge or the lack thereof. as you said, even if ireland were able to maintain possession for 90s, they were incredibly likely to give away a penalty. i would have preferred lowe to move into position to clear personally but i dont think the decision was incorrect even if it wasnt exactly perfect execution. the terrible defence was way more to blame if we have to pin it on only one incident (which in itself is also ridiculous since its an 80min game)
even with all the injuries in the back three i still cannot fathom why you would start ringrose on the wing
Largely to have a look at him there, see if he can add another string to our bow there. Larmour for me hasn't done enough to warrant starting on the wing and Ringrose is the sort of player that is too good to leave out. I understood last week because we wanted to keep continuity in the side but now that we have an injury its time to get him in there.
but he's ireland's best 13 and he hasnt started a game on the wing in years?
scotland are nowhere near good enough to beat ireland so bringing in an actual back three player, even if they are inexperienced or have performed poorly in the past, shouldnt be a problem
A 6Ns game (even if it is against Scotland) isn't the place to be having a look at a guy.
He's done a job there a few times, and is decent, but he's 29 now with three hundred million minutes of rugby at centre under his belt (I checked ESPN) so I don't see that being part of the plans going forward. He's well able to cover wing if needed but that's it.
I'd rather we pick the best of Larmour and Stockdale and maybe even call up the next choice from the provinces to camp for the week. Daly, Haley or Kilgallen are three that come to mind. It won't be much but no harm in refreshing them on Farrell's system. They might get a proper look in the summer.
What’s with all the posters saying that Ireland wouldn’t have been able to keep the ball for 90 seconds without giving away a penalty? Week after week the provinces can do it. England managed to hold on to it for longer in the end game without sealing off so the proof that the Murray kick was the stupidest choice is in the game itself.
because it was very unlikey and they were in a dangerous position so close to their own line, pretty simple
I would agree if the player coming in was Hansen or someone like Nash who's gone well there. Even though Larmour is well established at test level he hasn't done enough in his recent showing's to warrant making the XV.
Very much favored,
Not in your own 22, while the referee is fully aware that you're trying to kill the game. It's insanely risky. One player slips off his feet and its game over.
Teams (provinces included) seldom play the ball in their own 22 for periods of time, even less so against teams that have been better at the breakdown for almost the entirety of the match.
And again, even less so when trying to kill the clock, you have refs screaming use it, then the pressure on your own team not sealing off or to not knock the ball on.
I'll guarantee you, had Murry not kicked and we gave away a penalty, we'd have the same heads screaming why didn't he kick the ball away.
I dont know if you know how betting actually works but -4 is tiny.
Depends on how you play it, this is coming I expect from BOD talking about the NZ game, he was roaring at them to stop the one out runners and do a little play between two to three players because the ref will give a penalty. Not to kick the ball away
Against NZ it was one out runners and it was also a ref who loved a high scoring game and didn't like teams closing out games.
The kick was the wrong position and then if they wanted to take from that position then a player with a better boot....
But I still think with 90 seconds left Ireland could of kept the ball in the forwards and played the game out but it's just an opinion
Should have just thrown it to Baird and let him run it in from 80m.
lowe should have moved infield but he stayed on his wing, passing to crowley probably would have gained the same amount of ground more or less
and its 'would have' not 'would of'
I won't say anything about the lack of Capitals 😂
Anyway as I said it's my opinion.
So..... who likes the globetrotters this week?
correct in that i also made a mistake, arguably yours was much worse though
Nah don't think that mate.
Especially when you consider the post you quoted doesn't include the words 'would of'
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If James Ryan was fit and starting against England, we win that match. I get Joe is the shiny new toy, but our strongest pack has Ryan in the row. Very frustrating to see how few fans (of any province) get that.
I can't understand some people on here saying that Murray did the right thing to kick the ball away. We were in a glorious position to run the clock down. 90 secs is very short. If the English haven't got the ball they can't score.
Murray is a poor player and is rusty for not being directly involved the last few seasons. He lost us that game and no hiding that. When he looks back at it he will know he made a really terrible decision that cost us the Grand Slam. I hope Ireland aren't dented by this and wake up for Scotland next weekend.
We didn't lose the game from one single moment, we were incredibly lucky to even be that close on the scoreboard.
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