Ireland can win the Championship this weekend. England only have pride to play for. Have at it.
Aki was our best player. Murray should have passed it to him to try and get a few forward momentum phases going. He did not have to kick for touch from there.
That's pretty accurate, God I'm frustrated
When it mattered? Losing any match in the 6N has the same consequence. So losing any game makes them bottlers?
They are still top of the table and will more than likely be champions next week.
Go back to the soccer forum
That’s a cop out. We were strong favourites. Winning the 6N next week will be another fine achievement but don’t pretend that there isn’t disappointment with that performance and result today. Codding yourself.
Or the ref decides since you are trying to kill the game that any borderline call will be called against you. Its just as risky not to kick there.
England should have beat us by more. They beat the **** out of our pack generally. It seems a lot to blame that loss on a nine kicking or not kicking.
Agreed. Kicking wasn’t necessarily the wrong thing to do perhaps but kicking from that position was an horrendous mistake. Move it into a better position and then pin them back in their 22 if you’re going to kick it away. We bottled it. No two ways about it. We bottled it which is disappointing because we wont always have the abundance of talent that we currently have.
What are you dribbling about? Who ever said I wasn't disappointed? I'm sick about it.
Yes we were heavy favourites but that's the premise of my post. I think the performances so far have been given too much credit and I thought there was a decent chance today's result could happen.
My last point is aimed at those 'posters' who are not seen from one week to another but come in to bathe in the misery of those who are upset at the loss. They can have their few hours.
I take it this is a piss take Aki was the best Ireland player.
This is the thing, we'll never have a better opportunity to win a world cup again and nor now will we have a better opportunity to win back to back grand slams again. The opportunities slipping away one by one. We'll look back in a few years with a lot of regrets when our team isn't as good and the other nations get their acts together again.
On what basis would we not be good enough in years to come.
Have you seen our u20's the past 3 years
The same stuff was said when o connell, o driscoll et all retired
Already been through this but he did miss a tackle on one of the tries that could have been made. He also had one pretty basic error.
People want to drop Murray (i'd agree with this but not for this game) and POM mostly based on one mistake, so... that seems to be the bar. Yes, that does mean we are dropping most of the team which should be fun.
Serial bottlers???? Ireland won a grand Slam last year.
He was by far the best Ireland player on the field.
As for your deflection about Murray and POM. I see you. I do. Deflection.
They were terrible but were the likes of Joe McCarthy or Caolan Doris any better, i can’t remember either of them making much of an impact???
Yea but he made a mistake so should be dropped. He's also over thirty.
Have you not been reading the thread?
Frustrating that England are so consistently able to drag us into **** performances. We should've been expecting them to bring it with their physicality, yet we let them disrupt us. We absolutely missed Ryan today. Needed him to melt the rucks with his clear outs. Henderson is a spent force at this level unfortunately.
Unfortunately I agree. A few residents on the rugby pages here though seem determined to pretend to ignore that. They have done fantastic work in Irish rugby but particularly with the opposition in European rugby below par right now it was a fantastic opportunity to lay down a marker with being the first team to retain the Grand Slam in the 6N era. I think that they will have regrets when they look back but also of course there has been achievements and progress as well.
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Nailed it
Bottled the first fifteen or twenty minutes of last year's world cup quarter final, the biggest and most ring fenced match of the last 4 years.
Murray blew it today with his stupid box kick. When we had control of the ball in the last few minutes and we are going to kick it, why use the shortest kick option available?
Give it to Lowe to launch it downfield and I to the stand. Let England bring it back up error free.
POM is done - not because of one mistake but mainly because there are better choices and is one of the weakest links out there ..imo
Sexton got hammered in the press for making a few faces when been taken off. POM now has two yellow cards in important games for no reason. That was absolutely stupid today and not required at all. We had cover and he wasn't saving a try. I will wait for the same outcry for the supporters/media which hammered Sexton but somehow I doubt it will arrive
It was poor from Murray, I wouldn't mind I had just explained earlier in game to GAA fan why they kick, Murray got no distance at a critical time in the game, if he wanted to kick it out then why not give to Crowley/Lowe? It was a poor decision from such an experienced player and Ireland had the man power on at that stage to hold it in the forwards.
Not saying they are the whole reason we lost the game but it didn't help and questions have to be raised over POM with Baird's form
Stop pretending this Ireland team is judging itself on grand slams. They were building towards the world cup for years and bottled their first half against New Zealand.
nothing between the teams,experts will explain why we lost,fxx off, Two top teams goin hell for leather in a topsy turvy match and we missed out by a point,away for home which is huge brave brave effort and we love you guys
Hopefully you’ll be right, no guarantee though that underage players train on. What we do know is that right now Ireland are the most talented side in Europe, so not getting that back to back Grand Slam is disappointing when the talent and opportunity was there.
They lost by 4 points, get over yourself. If any other side the way Ireland lost that match they wouldn't be called bottler, its only said of Ireland because for these people its about fitting a narrative. Funny France are never labelled as bottlers when they fit the bill far more.
Ireland record at bringing u20 into senior is very good when you look at other teams across Europe, Wales been very poor at it. I would suggest the majority of the u20 will make senior teams in provinces and then up to them to progress
We certainly need more wingers
That's never going to happen. This is just the typical Irish inferiority complex at work, Ireland are still comfortably top dogs and will remain there for the foreseeable future.
The POM yellow card was way too obvious but he was in that position where he had to make a cover tackle and then try to slow ball because lowe missed a tackle leading to the clean break.
THey can walk away with the 6 nations next week, nothing to be sniffed at. A grand Slam is great but exceptionally hard to win and even harder back to back
Nonsense, he made the tackle and the backup players had come back. He had no reason to give away a penalty or a yellow card.
It was stupid and cost Ireland a try in the end. The 10 mins without him or Baird was a massive disadvantage as well in a game Ireland was already struggling in
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