Well, well, well ...
I'm sure Eamon is ready to jump on his rothar and pedal off in a fit of pique.
Charlatans, the lot of them.
ah yeah of course us mere peasants must run around with bags of empty cans like fools while our overlords get exemptions lol
really just taking the piss with this. has this system failed in any other country? would love to see ireland lead the way with this tbh
after its emptied its wheeled into the back of the store somewhere (the metal tray on wheels kart thingy from the rvm) , where its then inserted into the plastic orange bin thingy and then closed, and ready for whenever re-turn needs to collect it.
Yea, but what happens after its emptied is the question, maybe they are tipped into wheelie bins, I did see the Refuse Truck today at a Dunnes Stores that has a machine.
Sorry, I thought that was a pick up from an RVM location.
As far as I know the bin lorry driver doesn't go to the RVM.
The RVM is emptied by shop staff.
I assumed the bin lorry was emptying just wheelie bins from manual return businesses, I don't see wheelie bins around the machines
Didn't you post a video of that earlier ?
How does the bin lorry empty the machines? Or lift the contents into the back of the truck
Some RVM deposits from yesterday (LIDL this time!) not anywhere near as good as the €200 from the other day i know. Was aiming for a clear crisp €10 (brought €11 euros worth just incase of any rejects) but my arms got too tired and still sore from the other day, could only reach €7 before the machine spit out the deposit receipt voucher. After that i gave up, took the voucher, and gave the rest of my remaining cans/bottles to an elder gentleman who was using the machine beside me and only had like less than €2 worth. He talked about the old glass bottle deposits scheme back in the day, but also pointed out they don't come to your door to collect these days with this new scheme like they used to do with glass bottles thing.
...oh yes, i nearly forgot! i've a tip for anyone having struggles with those pesky small mini fruit shoot bottles. LIDL's machines seem to accept them. And so far seem to be the only place i've found that accepts them. Does anyone know if LIDL sells fruit shoot? it would be an interesting coincidence if they did. i can finally get rid of all my "mc donalds fruit shoot deposit charge 0.15" receipts now XD
Aldi are charging a deposit on their Vive 2litre rock shandy. Once they start with my favourite the lemon & lime that's the (fly) tipping point for me. Enough is enough at that stage. I've a burning barrel setup in the trees and long grass on rough ground 100 yards from my house. Easy get away if required. No more recycle bin charges for me! Sure most of it gets incinerated anyway. Less weight in the bin lorry means less diesel needed to transport my plastics somewhere else to get burnt. Biweekly CO2 saving right there. Ossian wont give a toss. Re-Turn still get my 2 litre sparkling lemon & lime deposits. Win win for me and Ossian. Saving the environment together. Just call me captain planet.
I was indeed
Whens all the illegal dumping happening when this becomes tedious and people won't bother with recycling bins or any bin for that matter.
Take that scurrilous comment back! Ossian cares deeply how Re-Turn deposits are funded! 🤣
Whats new.
"Minister of State Ossian Smyth has also criticised the lack of deposit charged, claiming that the Oireachtas will be “losing money” if it pays the deposit themselves and does not pass it on to customers. "
I think he means taxpayers will just be shafted a bit more to cover the loss.
If there is a logo on can a deposit would have been paid so bringing inside is the next step.
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>wheelie bin spotters
Loving the orange colour of the bin!
Im sure I feel the same way about something. Probably new tech. Its all about aesthetics 🤣
There's a level I didn't know existed. Train spotters>bus spotters>refuse vehicle spotters.
2.45 now in the vending machine at work!!!
It's a reject bin, if people are using it they are already at the store.
If the machine rejects the container, you have 2 options, put it in the bin or bring it home.
I don't know what you think you will achieve by bringing it to the checkout.
Whatever about sneaky price rises theres no way in hell companies would have reduced their price by 15c. Whoever suggested that was living in dreamland.
Likely already mentioned here already but I’d imagine our refuse companies had a measurable source of revenue from supplying aluminium for recycling (and less so from plastic too).
Now that that’s all essentially dried up it will be us (the customer) that takes the financial hit through increased bin charges and all the while having to clean, store and bring the cans to a machine. We used recycle 99%+ of cans (rinse , crush and into the green bin).
As with the bottle banks I’m guessing these collection points are going to be very popular with wasps in the autumn and I’m not looking forward to that.
I have only 3 items at the moment and will be going to machine or inside store
You going to put it on your mantle piece?
I’ve been recycling for many years now- consistently 80 to 90% of my household waste goes to recycling. Since this system has come in I haven’t bought any cans or plastic bottles. I just couldn’t be bothered paying extra for cans etc and storing them at home and bringing them back for pittance. Twenty cans will give me €3 back - I just can’t be bothered. I think many people won’t bother buying anything in cans or plastic bottles in future
i heard someone say before this kicked off that maybe companies like coke might take the 15 cent of their product price to make the difference & help keep sales the same, meanwhile the opposite has happened & they've decided to add about 25 cent on to the price so the 15 cent looks small in comparison😅
a 500ml bottle in eurogiant was €1 in 2022, now €1.75 plus 15 cent deposit
RVM map not updated in a few weeks now, and the one in my local shop is still missing - as is the one in the nearest O'Briens. Wouldn't want to be relying on the map to find them.
Presumably re-turn have to know where they are, so this is entirely on them.
Yes indeed! i genuinely don't believe their numbers at all as i disregard their stats entirely and see alot more cans (cans more than bottles) being discarded ever since this scheme went live. Some of the people who never used to discard cans are also doing it now thinking someone else is going to come along and pick them up. The problem with that is (other than the obvious environment/littering) is if these cans get damaged there's a chance a person can't claim any money from them and wont bother to pick them up, and also seen a kid try to pick one up earlier today only to get a nasty cut on his fingers.
As for the numbers, just seems like return are patting themselves on the back as a response to ignore all the backlash and the clear blatant issues the scheme is causing since day 1. it really is PR.
But even if their stats are real they have some cheek taking credit for it, its the hard people's work and dedication to returning the containers back that should be given credit. Would be nice if they had stats for each area to show who's doing better than who etc, turn it into something competitive and offer a reward or atleast some sort of credit and recognition for the area's dominating. Start off with something percentage wise, and then bring the bigger stats into it, so somewhere that redeems only 1 out of 1 cans does'nt get given 100% and win the thing.
Recycling really is'nt our problem as irish have been using green bins for years, the way i see it, this is their problem, and the governments problem, the target goals thing and the mismanagement of recycleables for the past several years. The whole country as a whole or the consumers should not be punished for this. if we help them reach their political goals to make up for their lack of proper recycling etiquette after getting our recyclables for years already, and their incompetence, we should be rewarded for helping instead of forced to help via this deposit tax.
Third week of this nonsense.
1 of 2 machines working in Lidl, 2 cans rejected again on the first 2 attempts but went through on the third.
No items to be returned next week, I've better things to be doing.
