I didn't say drugs but....I won't be posting details on a public forum, but can pm if you require. Maybe it's only local to here but it's a factor. I'm not having a go at you but can't honestly think of land bought around here from purely farming income.
Look at yourself buying land with off farm incomes..
you had a nice block of land as good as any land anywhere in the country and you sold it....
Didn't bother signing up to the national genotyping program this year and typically enough it's one of the rare years I have excess heifer calves. How much of an advantage is having genotype results when it comes to picking the best of what I have to keep for myself?
I've sold 10 and the same guy wants another 20. I find if you make a mistake and you sell one that turns out great it just brings back repeat customers. Don't sweat too much. family history and milk recording records are huge for selecting animals to sell i find.
Well seen as I had bought it 10 years previously I think I was entitled to sell it and it was never going to be a stand alone farm, only an out block and the 230 acre farm was a better prospect and considering the price got for it, it seemed the logical thing to do.
Ah Jayus Ginger your a farmer and a dairy farmer at that you could not be buying land unless there was a load of outside money from other businesses
Shares in the ‘worst’ co op in the country would be a big help I’d say lol
Mother of God ...... does that mean we are down to a COP of 14 cent yet 🤔..........any day now
😁😁no doubt at a minimum it was a helpful collateral.
I did sign up but pulled out ….everything up to this springs calves bar 5 I think were genotyped ….I will get all my heifersborn this year done at my own cost ….like black dog milk records and family history etc is what matters when selecting out heifers
Ginger has an off farm business on the go in Tralee town... Not a Garden Centre in case anyone was thinking along those lines
A fine one it is too. He helped me with a starter for the forklift.
We're all business people of sorts on here.
land sold in west waterford last week for 25k an acre, if you were making 800/acre it would take 31 years to repay excluding interest.....no type of farming can justify that price
all land purchased locally has been by individuals with business outside farming....i couldn't rent an acre 10 year ago i could rent as much as i want currently....were heading back to the landlord system in ireland
was that the farm the Dyson lad bought?? ballynatray??
Got a notion the other day to try find out the price of land in Russia and stumbled across this.
An 8,200 HECTARE farm in Russia. That’s 20,262 acres. I’ve seen a pile of different adverts for the same farm online.
In some of the adverts they talk about the farm coming with its own milk processing plant and cement factory. The advert I’m posting has the most photos and info but doesn’t give the price.
It had been put up for tender in 2022 with a reserve of $11 million but there’s another advert up for it elsewhere now asking for €5.8 million or a farm in Europe for a swap
On one of the adverts online they said they can cut 3 or 4 cuts of silage off the land each year. Its local town is a place called Chudovo, the yard is pretty much in the actual town. The region it’s in is meant to have some of the best farmland in Russia.
when I looked it up on google maps it was easy see how the farm was as big as it was, all the surrounding land outside the farm is just forest so I suppose anytime you want to make the farm bigger all you need do is go knocking trees!
they claim to get 600-800mm of rain annually which is poor of course but most of it comes in the summer months which aren’t as hot as I thought they’d be
you’ll see at the very end of the advert below that for dairy farmers in Russia there’s basically gigantic government incentives, the government will all but come out and milk the cows for the farmers.
obviously Russia isn’t a place anyone could do business and a person would have to be nuts to consider it but it’s some bang for your buck. Works out at €286/acre, cheaper than rented land here makes!
https://farmlands-agency.com/properties/agribusiness-for-sale/modern-dairy-farm-for-1200-3600-heads-with-new-equipment/
I'm sure ya could find a farm in some other part of the world even cheaper. But I must ask, what's the point of showing a farm in bloody Russia and trying to compare it to here? If ya were lucky after buying that, ya might be left with the farm and not have the money gone and you given a rifle and be sent to Ukraine. There was a nuts Canadian Christian family who upped sticks to move to Russia to get away from the gays, only to arrive and have their money frozen, get a visit from the government appointed heavies to quit whinging about the situation and passports confiscated.
Furthermore, unless the land is mostly trees, 1200 cows on 8200ha is a poor return for some of the best land in Russia
The bit that says swap for land in Europe....!!!!
It's a honey trap for gullible European farmers to rob them of their money.
There was a Canadian farming family fell for such a trap lately. They sold everything in Canada to put to it. An evangelical couple who before were bragging of leaving Canada because of its values to homosexuality. They left and their Russian handlers had their money in an account. When they got there the Russian bank declared them "enemies of the State" and froze the account.
The Russian state are theives who will do anything for money. Think the washing machines stolen in Ukraine right up to the billions of euros of Irish aircraft stolen from Irish leasing companies.
Scum of the world.
Ya I read “Red Notice” by Bill Browder lately and Russia is definitely not a place to do business. Dairy farms there do seem to be getting effectively given away, I saw many more but that was the most interesting one I came across.
Hi Roosterman. My apology. I didn’t realise you owned the internet. I just thought it was interesting. I’m a dairy farmer and this thread is about dairy farming. I’ll make sure to message you in future and ask for your written permission before I decide to post. My most sincere apologies
No need for that sort of shite. Post what ya like but if someone things it's pointless, and I do think it's pointless comparing land prices in Russia with land in Ireland.
BTW, I don't own the internet, but make sure it's accessible for all
I think half the things you post are “shite” as you call it but don’t feel the need to tell you. I only posted the advert because I thought it was interesting. You can calm down. It’s okay.
The likes though would see the farmer protests in Europe and think there's handy money to be made. We'll cash in on them.
In Russia all land is owned by Putin's inner circle. You may think you'd own or rent but anytime you can be murdered by the fsb or land simply taken back by the Kremlin.
All the western car companies had factories in Russia bought and paid for, and Putin simply bought them for 5 euros and transferred them to his friends. Real Real gangsters. If they weren't sold and signed over the people involved were unlived.
It was the comparison that I didn't think added much. I know yer not short of a few bob but even you would hardly think of going milking cows in Russia would ya? Would make a savage thread on here if ya did :-)
Was it in Ukraine or Russia where some Irish (or maybe English) lads had bought a huge farm and were growing crops on it? But they weren't living there to oversee and when they flew over to start the harvest they found the whole place had already been harvested and the grain gone.
There was a lad a while back who used to write in the IFJ about all the strides Russian agriculture was making and the great investments to be made. All gone quiet now.
Eastern Ukraine. It's grown legs probably after. Could be probably associated with Argentina as well.
Absentee landlords never works out. Even happened in this country when those were living the high life.
no he bought his huge estate fairly reasonably due to size
was an 80 acre farm, lovely ground......
I remember that, the Russian bear was going to put the world’s farmers out of business
Let off 5 cows this morning to the factory where 2023 july/aug calvers, still all doing 18-22 litres came into 1200 euro , going back to a spring calving block, wouldn't co-ops want to get their finger out of their h**s and up milk a few cent shortly theirs more money out of hanging them up at this stage then milking them
I was out in the Czech Republic maybe 30 years ago and we got talking to a Dutch farmer that relocated there.there was tears in eyes as he told us how the system worked.you paid up front for everything but everything you sold was paid up to 12 months later so you could never leave the company you were dealing with as they wouldn't pay you for last 12 months stuff if you did.you could see he was trapped as there was no way of getting his money back unless you met some one else from outside
That's sure, the grass looks greener over the ditch. I'd say farming in Russia would not be all plain sailing.
I'm getting the feeling that dairy farming is going down the pig route. When I started farming we had about ten sows, then no one was looking for the piglet. So I started rearing them to pigs. The costs were more than the price I was getting so we had to let them go. The sad thing about it was the great life the pigs had, the sows were left out every day for a run around and plenty of straw for the pigs to play.
I might knock another few years until the children are working but I can't see the next generation milking 60 cows. It will be interesting to see.
How many kg of meal are people feeding.
Cows are out fulltime with access to silage for an hour after morning milking. Currently feeding 5kg of a 15% high energy nut to 6000l cows.
I will start zerograzing next week, could i drop meal a bit. Or am i feeding enough.
Cleanouts are good. Cows look full.
