Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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It was cited and discussed earlier on the thread. I cant track it down as search results flooded by the recent searches following Baileys death.
The Guards had a warrant for Jules house, and the studio. The white ford fiesta would have been in scope of the warrant.
There is. I've posted it.
I agree she’s a total fantasist
I still wouldn’t believe a word out of her mouth
" There's a photo of the rubbish bags outside the car."
There isn't.
I'd believe that, because she, along with others around the area thought at first it may have been a hit and run.
Maybe the Gardaí and not Marie Farrell linked the stranger to the murder.
The fact has been discussed numerous times here. There's a photo of the rubbish bags outside the car.
Why would it be forensically searched? What kind of clown would drive through a murder scene with a car full of evidence and ring the gardai before disposing of the evidence?
And who would suspect that person of having something to do with the murder?
There appears to be no depths you won't go to from what I can see, including trying to accuse those who discovered her body of being involved with her murder. And do not say you aren't accusing them, you've been implying it for weeks, then back down when challenged, and then say it again at a later stage. Its utterly tiresome at this stage.
The thing is she isn't reliable as she didn't tell the truth and may be a total fantasist. Either the first time or the second about Bailey.
Other way round. She phoned the police on 25th Dec to report the strange man. No mention of Sophie.
i thought she made contact when she realised Sophie was allegedly in her shop Then referred to the strange man because of this
Not when she first called in. She only wanted to report the strange man she'd seen.
It was the car Bailey had access to and drove on occassion.
Got a source for that search of said car
Thanks
"All she was reporting was a stranger outside her shop."
If it was in connection with the murder, then I'd imagine it would be obvious who she was referring to. She may not have known her name at that early stage.
Edit;
Did she not not say she recognised the murdered woman as the lady in her shop on Saturday?
Given all the information that is in the public domain on the case, including DPP assessment... by a process of elimination, dont you think if anything had been found it would have emerged?
note that Bailey's car did not show any significant forensic traces at all
I went back 10 pages looking for a source for the above quote.....nothing posted and No credible links for it either.
Can anyone post a credible link to the above quote.
And as far as I know the car belonged to Jules
"The bags were removed from the car"
I know, it just said so in Healy's statement I quoted.
"The car clearly was searched and the bags removed."
Amazing you can tell that from the information above. Maybe you can tell us what kind of search was "clearly" done?
Actually when she first contacted AGS on 25th December (as Marie not as Fiona) she made no mention at all of Sophie. All she was reporting was a stranger outside her shop.
I agree with this so much but I also think the reason she inserted herself into it is because she’s hiding something or covering for someone
I’d be interested to know whether she was that close to the detective before the murder or did that happen during the course of the case
And..did again! Crazy.
The car had already driven through or at least someway through the crime scene when Shirley found the body.
I mean that in the sense of disturbing the ground by the way.
Sorry, I can't quote a documented source. One of the other posters mentioned it on this forum a few pages back.
More relevantly, if Bailey's car HAD yielded even the faintest trace of blood, bramble, DNA -- we'd never have heard the last of it. And such a find, however minuscule, would have massively strengthened the case against Mr Bailey that was submitted to the DPP.
As far as I recall, the car that Mr Bailey had access to (His then partner's car) was carefully and thoroughly searched and presumably swabbed and fingerprinted etc on the occasion of the first serious questioning, in January or early February. [But do we know this for sure? ....If it wasn't done, it certainly should have been]
Which is why I'm still a little surprised at such a cursory look around the neighbour's car as she drove away from the scene. I'm not accusing Ms Foster of complicity, but they were the nearest neighbours and they did encroach on the crime scene. Statistically, that pushes them towards the front of the line.
Hardly and allowing the car to drive over the drime scene was completely wrong..
"The car clearly was searched" - where are you getting that "fact" from?
And do you think the car was forensically searched in 5 minutes was it?
The bags were removed from the car, there's even a picture of the bags outside the car. The car clearly was searched and the bags removed.
I note that Bailey's car did not show any significant forensic traces at all
Got a source for the above statement, thanks
You’ll probably find that page is torn from the evidence book too
Bear in mind also that a Garda sat into Shirley's car and drove it from where she abandoned it out to the cordon, about 150 mtrs.
You can decide for yourself if you read Sgt. Healy's report, copied here for you from a post by @bjsc earlier on Feb 18th
"Further confirmation comes in a statement from Sgt John Healy who arrived at the scene at @14.15 on 23rd. He states - "I recalled seeing a vehicle a Peugeot 305 estate parked within the crime scene area on the road leading away from the scene. It was faced away from the scene and had black plastic bags in the boot area. The bags were full. I attended the scene and spoke to members there. This may have taken 5 to 10 minutes. I then noticed the female from the neighbouring house. This person who I now know to be Shirley Foster go through the field from her house towards the Peugeot. I spoke to Ms. Foster and informed her that nothing could be removed from the crime scene without investigation. She agreed to a search of the vehicle and the removal of the bags for further examination. She then drove off in the direction of Schull""
Note the timing here, Shirley met Bailey and Jules on the boreen on her way to schull at 2:20.
You must admit it didn't leave much time to search the car and the forensics team from Dublin did not arrive until later that day.
May have been, who's to know? A twig off those brambles could have been caught in a crack...a bit of blood on the ground could have been in the tyre tread. Apparently there wasn't a scene-of-crime team onsite at the time.
I note that Bailey's car did not show any significant forensic traces at all. But Ms Shirley's car drove right over an area right beside the crime scene. The escape route of the killer, no less. I'd very much like to know what the investigating team said or wrote about this incident.
also believes it is still not too late to achieve some closure for the dead woman’s family and the community of Schull, where she was murdered in 1996
I wonder how much closure the family are actually looking for at this stage ?
They believe that Bailey did it.
They support the French trial finding him guilty.
I believe that Sophie's son was on the Late Late Show and more or less said that with Bailey dead that was that.
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