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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,572 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,572 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Post edited by TheValeyard on

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69



    Ship is sunk. Massive explosion. Crew of 80 likely dead. Ship was only launched in 2021 and cost a lot.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Your concerns are understandible, but it's worth noting that North Korean weapons development (and Chinese for that matter) amounts to very little more than them doing their damnest to clone 70s / 80s era Soviet tech and repackage at all as "innovative" & "high tech". This is of practical use to the Russians, since a lot of their gear is from that era too. Unfortunatly from them however, the North Koreans appear to equally feckless when it comes to quality control of their production.

    The Soviet Union of the 1980s had ballistic missiles, and that's more or less what Pyongyang has managed to develop. And by "develop" I mean: "managed to clone a succesfully working copy of a soviet missile without it blowing up in their faces....this time".

    North Korean can help shore up shortages of ammo and munitions, but that's going to dry up and if they actually having trouble with North Korean rounds blowing up in their launchers, then even being suppiled by them isn't going to be much help.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,997 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    First drone shows footage of the big boom but it still goes in to deliver it's own payload. Gotta double tap!

    But the footage around 1:30... That's a cavernous hole. Ain't no ship surviving that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    The missiles the ship was carrying must have went boom in the initial hit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69



    Can’t post the link from Reddit but it looks like the ship was trying to defend its itself with machine gun fire but the drones got through…. In the dark firing at drones you can’t see and if you don’t hit them you are dead….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,997 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Where are these naval drones coming from? Are they built in Ukraine or abroad?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭rogber


    Good strike, they all make a difference as long as the ships go quicker than they can be replaced



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    Made in Ukraine. ukrainian sea baby drone - Google Search

    Edit: It was a Magura drone, also Ukrainian, that hit this ship.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Costly days for Putin's Russia. Who knows how much actual news re losses and costs gets to him but those who do manage the reality have to be wincing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Russia is the gift that keeps on giving in terms of NATO.

    If they keep this war up, they won't have a Black Sea Fleet left. Along with a diminished airforce including reduced number of A50s. They can't send in the Armata tank because its too "expensive". In other words it was only built to look good at Moscow parades but to actually fight a war, no chance. Won't be too many foreign buyers of an expensive tank that can't actually fight.

    Their refineries are being decimated and they've had to restrict oil exports.

    Their border with NATO has been doubled. They've essentially lost the Black Sea to Ukrainian sea drones and the Baltic Sea to NATO.

    And demand for their much vaunted weaponry such as the S400 will likely diminish.

    And they are losing all their armour with every passing day.

    Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    That boat by it's design is supposed to be stealth and very difficult to pick up on radar. The fact Ukrainian drones are picking it up in the dark on the open sea is something else too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,661 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Persumably (guessing here of course) China may have told Kim in private that they will be good to backfill anything that is sent into the war to help the "unlimited friend" Russia destroy Ukraine, and he doesn't have to worry.

    I kind of doubt NK would be able to easily/quickly replace the stockpiles of shells, missiles etc. they are sending or they would be so generous and helpful to Russia if they thought this was going to empty out their arsenal. I think the regime there is pretty extremely paranoid, and would not deplete their military completely, no matter what Russia promises.

    That trick can only be pulled off one time, and then it just becomes China supplying Russia with weapons via NK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    It appears there's been no shipments from NK since mid February which is interesting. If that continues, either NK have nothing left to ship, what they sent wasn't very good or the Russians have not met their side of the bargain. The Russians are hugely dependent now on states like NK and Iran.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    If NK shipped 2 million shells, that's enough for Russia to be firing 20k a day for 100 days. They could easily send another shipment after 100 days or when Russia runs low.

    Hard to tell what sort of deal they have. done. Could have been just a once off to clear out most of the NK stockpile.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    I wonder if the russians will attempt to move warships through their canal network that connects the Baltic and Barents to the Black sea.

    It's very shallow and narrow in places and would probably need dredging in many places.

    I imagine a ship creeping through the network would be easy pickings for drones and mines.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,223 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Can ships around 100M fit through that canal? Great news to wake up to another ship down. Hopefully a few more go boom this year.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭rogber


    In terms of NATO yes, in terms of Ukraine the war is still hell costing lives every day and bringing it to a successful end must be priority over endless slow bleed of Russia



  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    I doubt they would ever sink an oil tanker and risk an oil spill. Fairly sure it's a war crime to do so intentionally anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    The only country who can end this war is, you guessed it, Russia. Its been a complete disaster for them that only gets worse with each passing day.

    The longer they stay in Ukraine the more the damage they do to their own country.

    Putin is borrowing from the Hitler playbook. "If I can't win, I am determined to drag my own country down with me". Most dictators are like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    The war is a disaster for Russia, but not for Putin. Before the war, Putin was scared, ailing old fart hiding from COVID in an underground bunker. Now he is an old, cowardly, dangerous sick bastard, which is a massive improvement from his point of view. The war means that he can jail and kill his opponents with almost no consequences, any economic troubles are easily explained by the Western interference, and his own power can be consolidated to levels not imaginable before the war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭rogber


    Russia will not end the war as long as Putin is in charge, which is for the foreseeable future, which is why Ukraine needs better weapons. I don't really care about Russia being dragged down, what I want to see is a peaceful Ukraine where its citizens aren't dying fighting or because of Russian rockets. That will only come with Putin dying or being overthrown or killed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Keep destroying their oil refineries and putin will escorted out of the Kremlin…. Hopefully burnt alive and buried in a shallow pit



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    Nobodies going to be escorting Putin anywhere. Even if the siloviki were to turn on him (very unlikely since they're basically his trusted old St Petersburg buddies) he has his very own insurance policy in the shape of his private army the Roskvardia. So there'd have to be a war in Moscow itself to get him out. He wouldn't go quietly.



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