Come off it.
Multiple posters spotting increases on the beverages product lines at same time as the scheme rolls out, at a time of inflation easing.
Yeah in fairness the supermarkets put prices up and down the whole time, not sure if you can really say the DRS is to blame
As a former Pepsi addit.
Value pack (2x2L) has been removed.
Leaving only the single 2L bottle averaging around 3 euro - was always 2.50 at most and on offer most of the the Time around 1.50.
Lots of examples documented by posters on this thread
I've seen plenty of price rises, excluding deposit, both alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinks. What proof do you require in order to believe I'm not an AI system designed to take down the entire DRS?
Which price rises have you seen? Picked up 15 Guinness cans for ~€24.97 the other day in Dunnes Stores, which to my knowledge is the minimum unit price so if anything it's come down since a few weeks ago
I do a weekly shop most Fridays, most recent 29/02 and yet to be charged a deposit or see anyone at the RVM.
Shouldn't have been charged, it's over 3 litres. And there is no mention of the deposit on tesco online shopping compared with the 2 litre water bottles.
https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/en-IE/products/306805156
Tesco Slievenamon Irish Still Spring Water 5L - €1.45 €0.29/litre
https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/en-IE/products/315467023
Tesco Slievenamon Irish Still Spring Water 6 X 2 Litre - €3.10 €0.26/litre + €1.50 Deposit
Thanks, thats my local Tesco so i assume all Tescos are charging this. Didn't keep the receipt but i was 100% charged for it as I remember checking the receipt when I bought it for this.
Haven't seen the logo on any Aldi Lidl Centra or Supervalu own brand stuff yet, In Aldi I've only seen it on special offer stuff, third party beer all seems to be old stock.
The places you shop must keep immense amounts of product on-hand.
My local Lidl has basically nothing without the logo now; ditto local Centra. Work canteen is the only place I'm still seeing most stuff without logo.
I thought they were exempt.
Complain to the place you bought it, there is no deposit on containers above 3 litres.
Don't buy 5 litre bottles, charged the 25c but literally impossible to get that back as the bottle doesn't fit..
Used an RVM for the first time yesterday outside my local ALDI, it's enclosed apart from the doorway. The stench of stale beer was incredible, the place is going to be full of wasps in the summer.
Yeah I've noticed some in Dunnes.
Club Rock Shandy for example has switched over to having the logo.
Pepsi seems to have changed the packaging in general, not just the logo added.
First go at bringing items back yesterday to a Lidl RVM.
Large selection of mainly cans and a few plastic bottles. Rejected a couple of 2.0 litre coke bottles, so I chucked them in the recycling bin on the way out. I think I had checked the bar code on them on the checker previously and thet were OK, I didn't have the initial receipt obviously so wasn't sure how to go about getting back the 25 cent for those.
Fairly painless experience, had a good few curious onlookers, looking to see the machine in operation. I was getting a bit paraniod about the amount of Bulmers cans going in 😁😁😁😁. Nearly forgot to hand the voucher to the guy on checkout when paying for my shopping.
Excellent points made and as always, you and I the consumer will pay over the odds.
The cost benefit analysis on this is going to be fun in years to come. I wonder does it come under the remit of PAC seeing as it is a national scheme mandated by government.
There's very obviously a LOT of people/organisations making money out of this scheme, either directly or via anchillary requirements.
There's issues with people claiming back deposits which they have paid, for a number of reasons.
There are some retailers who are operating outside the Ts and Cs of the scheme (which is expected in my opinion)
There is no sign of any method of supporting people who get their groceries delivered.
There are cost increases that producers are applying to their products, up to ten percent, that are not the "deposit".
There are significant numbers of people (based on this thread) who will continue to use their recycle bin for some of the reasons mentioned above.
These are all verifiable facts and as such, one would have to ask, how likely people are to engage/contine to engage with the scheme bearing in mind all of these issues.
They don't need to be rinsed, they just have to be dry. I'd imagine most people will rinse them if they're storing them in their home just to stop smells etc. If you're storing them in a shed then you might not bother.
Being a bit pedantic here and not knowing a lot about the actual recycling processing. Would I assume plastics at least are washed at some stage so why is the consumer being asked to wash before into the bin. A needless waste of water, no? And water we are told is a priceless commodity.
Its not complex and there would have to be an additional sort, becuase different coloured PET are sold separately. clear and coloured PET have a different value.
Is the €2.81 a typo as the deposits are .15 or .25?
Like most people I was surprised to hear cans and PET mingling in the same container, I had assumed the machine segregated them.
But, I am just guessing, it's probably a very easy, fully automated job to separate two and only two distinct materials at the processing plant, and easier to do that then maintain separation and keep double capacity right through the return chain from RVM to plant.
The whole system seems to be working quite well from the consumer point of view. I also happened to purchase a four pack of an imported craft beer and noted I was charged for the deposit ( Tesco). When I looked at the cans there was no return logo and thought there is 60c I will never see again. Took them along with me anyway when bringing bottles to Lidl and machine took them no bother. €2.85 from returned bottles and cans. Deposit paid on the purchase on the same day €2.25
nah the worker was enthusiastic to see people using the RVM and more than happy to answer questions about it. Infact at one point he even complemented me after seeing me with 2 giant black bags (or made a sarcastic remark depending on how one interprets it) saying i deserve badge for all my dedication, and also noting that this is'nt the first time he had seen me there this week. And then joked about having to keep emptying the machine if i'm gonna keep coming back, to which i joked back about it being his job anyway and that the store is getting paid for it by making money off of each thing i recycle, which at that point things had kind of began to get sour as i had touched a nerve being too confident and cheeky lol.
But still though all went well.
I reckon the retailer wanted to tell the fool to eff off
Correct
Have yet to see anyone use or even go near these machines in a fairly substantial sized supermarket in my local town. I wonder what % of items will be recycled through these machines
yes that was one of the more unfortunate and disappointing things i've found out about. it just feels more and more like a recycleables cash grab at this point. Who knows maybe return sells the bails of recycleable material overseas and the buyers of these have to sort through them to separate and recycle them, or perhaps they have a machine that does it. i'm just hoping it does'nt get incinerated at the end of it all.
Either way i feel extremely mislead as i had always been alluded to believe with this scheme that if we present our clean containers to the machine they would be separated by the machine as soon as the container go in and get recognized by the scanner. that seems to be the case in big supermarket machines like aldi, however i have'nt yet seen the inside of an aldi (or other massive) RVM being emptied. i'm just hoping they really do separate them and not just have the separate chute thing for a misleading visual effect. Reminds me of the things some coffee shops used to do in the early days of having recycle bins with regular waste bins built in beside eachother and all going into the same bag.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/subway-recycling-restaurant-food-waste-b2025032.html
