Exactly, they should know when they are out of order at the very least, I would also think it would make sense they know how full they are so they can plan when to empty them....but that might be far to sensible.
Huh?! I don't agree.
So these machines aren't smart enough to transmit information to a central area via the Internet or a basic thing that acts like a data sim card, seems stupid are they reliant on the shop reporting when machine down or how full they are? It's not complex...
Would not be difficult to have a real time website. These machines are internet connected (I assume), and they know when they are out of order, you would only need to attach a status to the map on the website.
On the aldi one it's on screen, titled Payment Now I think.
Where's the "I'm finished. Print voucher now" button? I had a bag of 40 odd cans and came away with three receipts. I'm not that slow.
Up in aldi in belgard earlier with a bunch of bottles and cans that my neighbour gave me yesterday. Both machines working fine, all items went through first time and got a voucher for €2.55 back which I passed on to him. One other person was using them, they had their kid feeding bottles but it looked like everything was getting rejected. I asked them if they had paid a deposit on the bottles but they didn't seen to know for sure.
The team janitor is gonna be making a mint! So in theory one could say it's like they're leaving behind a tip for him/her. lol
A website would never be up to date.Same as a battery charger website
"Which country's scheme did people say we copied?" i think it was either Germany or Africa, not sure which but definitely atleast one of those.
As for the rest of what you said, i feel ireland could learn a thing or two from how denmark have their deposit scheme going, especially in terms of having to manually accept things if machine is'nt working.
Ah those were deadly. With the yellow lids 🤣
When I was a kid, reusable bottles were used for that sort of stuff - the thick blue plastic Lucozade ones were everywhere. That avoids any deposit issues entirely.
Seems a bit harsh on the club buying the stuff for players/staff. The club etc pay the deposit but players get the deposit back if they somehow hold onto the bottle?
Stupid stuff
I didn’t say it would be different. I was just asking a question.
Producers paying a fee to allow them to sell products in the country has nothing to do with the company ownership. It's a company limited by guarantee so the owners are the guaranteurs or members who formed the company or apply to become members, and they elect the board. I said retail industry as a bit of a catch all, there are a mix of producers and retailers in there.
Aldi this morning machine broke...marks this morning machine broke...is there a website that actually tells you ones that are working?
It's all a bit of a shambles.
Its a money making scheme plan and simple and the more thats its discussed the more evident it is.
The teams can return them.
I think that's a straightforward use case.
What could be interesting is for local teams with their local shops to maybe have an area where people could donate their vouchers and helping the teams out a bit over time?
Same as the parent who buys a heap of them for kids party somewhere, or just the same as the rest of us plebs. Why would it be any different?
Probably been asked multiple times, but where do sports teams stand with things like having 48 bottles of multipack water for their lads/girls after a match after lying deposit for them?
Tough luck?
In Denmark retailers have to accept returns manually if their machines aren't working. Which country's scheme did people say we copied?
"Stores must continue to refund the deposits manually if a reverse vending machine is out of service. Contact a store employee."
Must be a Greener wanting to up the levy without sorting existing scheme
Hit off the smell?
Nitwits very polite naming.Over the wall or out car window not necessary any more
Minimum staffing levels in Lidl.Nothing new there and machines "breakdown" once a month
The mark up on soft drinks is huge.I know in bars etc it is 100+%
Reminds me of the token system in UK(&elsewhere) You could only spend your money in the company's stores.Got to be illegal-against the scheme rules
"why would day if given an easy opt out option" . To save money, thats why. At the end of the day businuesses would often rather opt for the cheaper option with things especially when it comes to things being forced upon them by law like this RVM scheme. Many stores of applied for exemptions, and rightfully so. But the point i'm trying to make is: manual returns would be more beneficial for stores (money wise).
i'm sure if a store had a choice between having a machine forced on them at their expense that has a long 7 year ROI, vs being able to do manual returns, they would opt for manual in an instant. The thing is, i don't believe they've even been given that choice.
Does anywhere do manual returns?
Manual returns? I have yet to buy a product with a deposit or see anyone using a RVM. That's what happens, I guess, when you live in the arse end of nowhere!
That's why they should, but why would they if given an easy opt out option.
In fairness a few of the last posts require someone to engage with the premises on the practices they are employing that goes against the T's and c's of the scheme. These situations were always going to happen.
The issue, again, for me is this involves extra work on the end users part or worse still, may involve some level of confrontation which nobody likes.
It's just another negative con of this whole con on top of the many more already identified.
to take responsibility in the event that their machines are not working down instead of passing the book and making people go elsewhere. or to do it faster.
The thing is, they don't accept manual returns at all whatsoever as far as i know.
![Photo of [Deleted User]](https://w9.vanillicon.com/v2/925678a10b2fdb0546d802550390a10f.svg)
