Why do you not return over the counter? Would be quicker for bulk Shirley ?
I Think anyone with rejects needs to pour their black bags of bottles on the counter in store, and don't leave until every can bottle is counted and the deposit returned.
That's what we should all do, pile the empties on the conveyor belt before our groceries with a "Don't mess with me bitch" facial expression.
Load them up one by one, slowly, as if we've lost 80% of our arm muscle function.
Yes as can agree with that if machine rejects the logo or machine is broken manual return as stated in those rules as your following and not bringing them home.
cmon with that now. You’ll get yourself barred.
No what you want to do is when it comes time to pay along with cash or card hand over empty cans and bottles subtracting the deposit value from the bill.
Yes I agree, but the main point is, one can manually return, and demand, (if need be, hopefully not) that every can and bottle is counted, and that the deposit is returned, there is no excuse for a cashier or store, that is signed up for manual returns to refuse to give back a deposit.🙏
i've yet to see anywhere that would accept bulk stuff being returned to the counter. would be funny to just slam a massive bag of cans onto the counter and say "i hit the jackpot, now gimmie my precious can/bottle money".
Realistically i think return were talking out of their backside when mentioning the whole manual return's at the counter thing. could have been all marketing talk and lies just to assure people to go along with the scheme day 1. Does anywhere even accept manual returns? i've yet to see anywhere do them.
yeah but knowing the cheek of them, they may just scan the barcodes on those cans, charging you for them as if they're part of your shopping instead of refunding deposits on them. With that method suggested, i can imagine the bill at the end coming up €800+ or an extra few hundread at the least. Due to the misunderstanding of the cans on the conveyor belt. Resulting in you getting messed with XD
Have you ever ran a business? Sometimes you do things out of necessity/practicality rather than it being a direct measurable benefit to you. Either way I have no real reason not to believe either example.
Just businesses being businesses for whatever reason to them.
The price rises caught me of guard moreso. I would have expected spot issues with complying with the scheme for various reasons, broken machines etc but the fact that at least one supplier has added ten percent to their base price for at least one product before the DRS is added wasn't something flagged by ministers and the like. Did the public consultation highlight that outcome I wonder?
Sure why would they realistically make it easy to accept manual returns? It makes no sense.
to take responsibility in the event that their machines are not working down instead of passing the book and making people go elsewhere. or to do it faster.
The thing is, they don't accept manual returns at all whatsoever as far as i know.
That's why they should, but why would they if given an easy opt out option.
In fairness a few of the last posts require someone to engage with the premises on the practices they are employing that goes against the T's and c's of the scheme. These situations were always going to happen.
The issue, again, for me is this involves extra work on the end users part or worse still, may involve some level of confrontation which nobody likes.
It's just another negative con of this whole con on top of the many more already identified.
Manual returns? I have yet to buy a product with a deposit or see anyone using a RVM. That's what happens, I guess, when you live in the arse end of nowhere!
"why would day if given an easy opt out option" . To save money, thats why. At the end of the day businuesses would often rather opt for the cheaper option with things especially when it comes to things being forced upon them by law like this RVM scheme. Many stores of applied for exemptions, and rightfully so. But the point i'm trying to make is: manual returns would be more beneficial for stores (money wise).
i'm sure if a store had a choice between having a machine forced on them at their expense that has a long 7 year ROI, vs being able to do manual returns, they would opt for manual in an instant. The thing is, i don't believe they've even been given that choice.
Does anywhere do manual returns?
Reminds me of the token system in UK(&elsewhere) You could only spend your money in the company's stores.Got to be illegal-against the scheme rules
The mark up on soft drinks is huge.I know in bars etc it is 100+%
Minimum staffing levels in Lidl.Nothing new there and machines "breakdown" once a month
Nitwits very polite naming.Over the wall or out car window not necessary any more
Hit off the smell?
Must be a Greener wanting to up the levy without sorting existing scheme
In Denmark retailers have to accept returns manually if their machines aren't working. Which country's scheme did people say we copied?
"Stores must continue to refund the deposits manually if a reverse vending machine is out of service. Contact a store employee."
Probably been asked multiple times, but where do sports teams stand with things like having 48 bottles of multipack water for their lads/girls after a match after lying deposit for them?
Tough luck?
Same as the parent who buys a heap of them for kids party somewhere, or just the same as the rest of us plebs. Why would it be any different?
The teams can return them.
I think that's a straightforward use case.
What could be interesting is for local teams with their local shops to maybe have an area where people could donate their vouchers and helping the teams out a bit over time?
Its a money making scheme plan and simple and the more thats its discussed the more evident it is.
Aldi this morning machine broke...marks this morning machine broke...is there a website that actually tells you ones that are working?
It's all a bit of a shambles.
Producers paying a fee to allow them to sell products in the country has nothing to do with the company ownership. It's a company limited by guarantee so the owners are the guaranteurs or members who formed the company or apply to become members, and they elect the board. I said retail industry as a bit of a catch all, there are a mix of producers and retailers in there.
I didn’t say it would be different. I was just asking a question.
Seems a bit harsh on the club buying the stuff for players/staff. The club etc pay the deposit but players get the deposit back if they somehow hold onto the bottle?
Stupid stuff
When I was a kid, reusable bottles were used for that sort of stuff - the thick blue plastic Lucozade ones were everywhere. That avoids any deposit issues entirely.
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