I think we should keep a list:
This thread is hilarious, we've had an insinuation that one poster lied about a bin not being available, and another poster is expected to name a rural shop (that could help anyone who might know them in real life identify them) to prove they didn't print a notice about refunds themselves or photoshop it in.
Is it too hard to believe that there are flaws with this system? Like really?
Clearly needs some sort of printed Tshirt or hivis vest...
Warning: professional bottle returner at work
Pity anyone waiting behind you in a queue. I'd say looks would kill if you were standing there feeding in industrial amounts of stuff!
If we hear of a rage murder at one of these machines, we'll know for sure who it was :)
They need the bottles back, how else can the bean counting exercise be accurate?
it would be a nice turn of events if re-turn responded back to the emails (or whatever written correspondence is being talked about here) and asked for a paypal link to give the money back via paypal, or a choice of choosing amazon vouchers for the deposits instead.
i'm getting tired of holding onto my receipts for bottles that don't work in the machine
Yeah, don't waste the persons time. You are just adding insult to injury.
Their deposit is gone, tough shít. It's the law.
This has been pointed out to you for months now.
You getting it yet?
Have you got a better idea ?
Brilliant.
But again how does any of that get that persons money back?
Ignore him, please. He is clearly trying to wind you up.
The scheme is infallible and fantastic, any evidence to the contrary is quite obviously photoshopped, staged, something, something.
How does it give greater credibility? Do all posters upon seeing a post drive down to the named shop to see if what has been posted?
Hopefully it will be taken down shortly, but you are welcome to drive here, going to cost ye a fair bit in fuel mind ya.
So, if making this up, I print out the notice, go into the shop, post it up on the noticeboard near the RVM, take a pic, take it down, email ReTurn,
get a reply, answer reply, and post all my actions here. That's a fair bit of work.
I wouldn't. My post was directed at Red Silurian about their demands for proof on here being farcical. Maybe I'll start looking for "proof" every time someone gets most of their bottles / tins accepted at an RVM.
As you know people are even struggling to get their own money back at this point.
I can see people in certain situations being able to claim back as much as you have there. They would generally work in large buildings as cleaners or facility staff where there are segregated bins in place or "cleanish" bins where items can be recovered from. I've seen this situation in my own building and amn't sure yet if anyone is taking advantage of it.
I'm not saying you're making it up, I'm suggesting that naming the store would give greater credibility
There's a lot of accusations flying around social media and once you ask for more details they go quiet
I explained my reasons why and I can guarantee you 95% of posters here do not shop at these supermarket. I take great offence your attitude that I am making this up. I posted one week ago seeing the sign and posted upon my next trip to town would take a pic which I did today.
yes for sure, you're right about that. There is people making money from this scheme, however sometimes the pendulum swings both ways XD.
Re-turn haven't given consumers much to work with, and there's alot of inconveniences caused by this scheme. We just need to find more ways to make it work for us. For me small bottles like tropicanna and robinsons fruit shoot keep getting rejected, and every so often a couple of the bigger sized bottles. like for every 100 recycleables i may find anywhere between 5 and 20 being rejected. it gets annoying, especially when frequently using the machines. But i feel bad for alot of the other people who have big black bags filled with return logo containers, who try 5 or 10 bottles from the top and then give up after seeing them constantly being rejected. If it were me i would advise people bringing a seperate spare empty bag with them to put the rejects into, that was they don't get in the way or put back into the same bag as the non-rejects. Its a hopeless feeling to try scan 3 in a row for them all to be just spat back out. i'm not surprised there's people leaving bags at the machines. Some of them are just giving up, or are just frustrated after realizing they don't work. i don't blame them. but saying that there are some people who have non-eligable stuff and just random non scheme based things.
Either way i'd like more people to be able to make the scheme work for them. Like as horrible as this is being pushed on all of us, i would genuinly want people to be able to benefit from the scheme. it's hard for people to make use of the scheme when they're only getting their own money back.
Maybe there should be an addition to this, where if people redeem a certain amount of cans/bottles in a row, they get something. And have it funded by returns profits, rather than coming out of the people's pocket. Some incentive.
Most of the shops themselves are just a franchise essentially - they will operate the way that suits them best - generally.
I don't have any reason to believe the photo is falsified.
Anybody can print an A4 sign and put it on a noticeboard so it's questionable. In fact a photo editor could be used to create the same photo, wouldn't even need to print or snap a photo
If legit then knowing what store this is would help people on here to avoid
If I name the shop, how do you know I am giving you the actual shop?
So if the store name isn't provided it might not be happening. Photo of the sign looks legit to me.
Well I suppose its slightly better than demanding proof manual returns take up staff / customer time. Progress.
Staff have always been great and would often see shop owner on the premises, always with a hello.
I posted a pic, and can show email to and from ReTurn. My problem is not with the shop, it is this system. This shop delivered groceries to my door during Covid and before, tho not sure if they still do. Delivery was free!
So you'll post the problem here but not the problem store? Makes me wonder how true it is
No it's definitely nuts, especially with the high value campaign supervalu and Centra were run in the lead up. If course considering the original posters unwillingness to disclose the location it might not even be happening
Not nuts at all really, another reality of a scheme such as this thats been foisted on people with little or no thought given to it.
Prefer not to. A S Valu in rural Ireland.
That's nuts, what shop is that? Name and shame
First time returning my bottles - 9 1 liter bottles is big (1 carrier bag) when you cannot crush them... ( I know we should stop drinking orange juice).
First machine was broken - second machine took 1 bottle then put up a red X saying it was broke now too.
Had to leave with my shopping bag of 8 bottles + shopping- felt like just leaving them there. Hope experience improves because first impression of this system is its much worse than just putting them in the Green bin.
The producers pay into the scheme, so they "own" it, not the retailers? It's their annual membership and fees for product placement that fund the scheme (as well as unclaimed deposits, money from reprocessed material etc).
I'm not sure what that has to do with my post.
Well, I wouldn't use a letter to start with especially as the stamp would cost more than the amount involved.
The social media airing makes sense and would be more effective if the company can be shown to be refusing to put the matter right.
The bedrock of a deposit scheme is the return of the deposit when the consumer complies with the terms and conditions. They simply can't get away with unfairly holding onto the deposit.
