My exact thoughts on watching it too. Their work rate was immense too and backed up each other throughout. Neither Harty Cup finalists managed to get any further with Nenagh losing out after St Raphaels scored the last four points to win by one. And the ref played 6+ minutes added time. Nenagh will be disgusted.
Was watching the kierans game, the best coached kilkenny team I've seen in a while. Excellent puckouts, use the ball very smart and it will take a very good team to beat them in the final.
Fair play Kierans, they looked comfortable the whole way through that. Loughrea scored the last 4 points to beat Nenagh by a point in the other semi final.
Not 100% sure of team but I think it was
Manogue
Bergin
Brennan
Kelly
Hickey
Neary
McPhillips
Roche
Lauhoff
Deely
Connellan (not sure on this one)
McEvoy
McDermott (Hughes replaced him in the first half. His knee was well strapped up from the start)
Glynn
Hunt
Anyone have the starting Kierans team?
From what I heard, UMPC offered Kilkenny GAA the large TV screen scoreboard which is now in Semple Stadium. KK GAA countyboard in their wisdom refused it and Tipp gained. Tipp GAA apparently have companies lining up all the way over the railway bridge 😉 trying to get a slot on it. It would have cost money to put the steelwork in place but it's a hugely valuable piece of kit which our wonderful county board in their wisdom didn't act on it, to secure it for Nowlan Park🤦♂️. No doubt the county board were worried about offending our current scoreboard sponsor or some such🤷
Kierans going well so far but it looks like they'll be hurling into the wind in the second half.
Kierans hurling well. Hunt and Glynn inside have the full back line in a world of trouble.
Wouldn't think Waterford hit the jackpot with Suir engineering more it was a last resort.As regards the electronic score board what was missed.
Their is no point bigging up schools hurling like many do on this page. Alot of young lads go into kierans for an easy medal, get hyped up by posters such as Alonzo on this page and in the local paper but when it comes to the real thing at underage, they consistently fail to produce as evident by our underage record over the last decade.
School hurling is a lottery at this stage.
I havent been at a Kierans game since last year's AI final. I've watched about 10 matches in Leinster and Munster this year on Clubber.
I see Suir engineering has become the main sponsor of Waterford GAA. I know they sponsored at least one new sign in Nowlan park, which is very welcome but did our county board drop the ball again like they did with the electronic scoreboard.
You sure get to alot of the kierans games.
On paper, you'd feel it's not vintage, but they have been winning easily (only a mountain of wides by Kierans kept margin down v Offaly Schools).
I think the winner of this semi will win it out, dont see Kierans losing in Croke Park. I felt Nenagh were lucky to win Harty, both their goals looked dodgy out (the first one was at least 10 steps).
ASR are big and strong, but were lucky to beat Thurles in semi. Match is in Bansha and if it goes ahead, it could be a real slog.
Live on TG4 YouTube
ASR starting team in Harty final was 10 Clare and 5 Limerick.
Don't know anything about ASR but haven't been woeful impressed by Kierans.
Neary is obviously a lovely hurler but not sure how he's ended up at 6 and really think he can be targeted if a team has a good forward with a bit of size - I know he played 4 for the U20s last year and I think Ballycallan played him at wing back but for me I think he should be midfield or in the forwards and let him roam anywhere in the middle 3rd. Let him take the ball from a centre back and see the whole field in front of him.
Would be worried about their forwards as well as I'd class a number of them as "nice" hurlers but not sure if they want a heavy pitch and a dogfight. Croke Park in a final would suit them far more but I'm making assumptions about the pitch in Bansha to be honest.
What are Kierans like this year? Hard to judge how strong they are from the Leinster comp. Ard Scoil will fancy their chances especially if Kierans are over confident from their Leinster final win over CBS
Dare I say, that's good news! 👍
Congrats to Killian Doyle and Ben Whitty on winning the freshers A final with UL last night against DCU, DCU had Ivan Bolger, Bill Hughes and Ted Dunne on their team so good to see a bit of Kilkenny representation in the final.
He was dropped at the start along with shane walsh and a few others.
Have you missed all the posts regarding Tom Kenny? Just in case you have, he's not interested in joining the panel and that should be respected.
Back to those available - in your opinion numerous players on the panel at present aren't good enough. I think of ALL the Boro lads, Billy Ryan, Fogarty, Buckley, Wally, Deegan etc etc. Now, come up with the alternatives.
Name a 26/30 man panel from your vast knowledge of the club scene. I'd be particularly interested in who you think is being omitted from either the senior or under 20 panels.
I suppose the counter to that is that very few young lads start off their intercounty in stellar form. It takes time to learn the ropes and get up to speed. The most disappointing thing for me is that they don't seem to be identifying 2-3 younger lads that they believe can make it and giving them 3-to 5 games in the same position to let them bed in and get used to intercounty hurling. Very few if any of the young lads have started more than 2 games in a row. Tom Phelans injury is also a disappointment as he would have benefitted from an extended run in the league.
Some on here are talking about other teams young lads showing up very strong for their teams but most have been getting regular league and championship sub appearances for the last 2-3 years so it's about time they are stepping up. Most of our young lads bar Billy Drennan have not had a decent sustained run in the starting team at any point so far. Is the management overly focused on the results and we're hard taskmasters in Kilkenny if the team isn't going well we complain. If they gave 3-4 young lads their head to fill positions for the whole league but it cost us a place in the top-tier league division next year would we be happy?
On a more positive note I was very impressed with Darragh Corcoran especially when he went to midfield. I'd be interested to see him there against a stronger opposition like Clare and see what he can do. I thought he read the game well, tackled hard, burst forward loads, he brought a bit of steel and urgency to the midfield we haven't seen from a Kilkenny team in a long time. He's shooting is nothing to write home about but that can be improved on. I thought he's decision making and passes were all good, more pressure and less time against better opposition might change that but I think he could do a serious job there for us.
I also think M Butler needs a break and after his late withdrawal on Sunday it might be the break he needs and come back in time for the championship.
The other side of your point about Fogarty,Walter and Buckley I suppose is that in the absence of any young lads putting their hands up he has to see if the older players can still perform at this level or not. Because let's face it, we're still going to need them all. No point retiring lads until you have someone to take their place.
Exactly my point.
Is Niall Brennan of Lisdowney gone off panel also?? another player I would have liked to see more from this year as anytime I seen him felt he might have something to offer.
I'd imagine the point being made about injuries is not that we're picking up injuries as everyone is this time of the year but that it's the players who we would have wanted to try out have been injured and not got a chance.
I'd 100% agree with you on the injury front, it's been very unfortunate that a lot of the players he would have liked to see get a chance have been missing with injury. The disappointing thing is that we look to be going in to championship with the same team as last year bar maybe Carey and Shane Murphy.
I don't think he has been unlucky with injuries. They are a given at any level particularly inter county. He seems to have no plan to bring on and develop young players. Bringing on Walter last Sunday at the first sign of trouble was ludicrous following on from bringing Conor Fogarty and Cillian Buckley against Wexford. How can you judge players if they're not tested at league level? So what if we lose a few league matches but we found 3 or 4 players that might be up to this level. Even if they are not up to that level, it would be better to find out now. After last years All Ireland, it was obvious we needed a serious overhaul of the team but we have'nt really even looked for a new 6, 8,9, 11 and 14 (at least). We have enough basic talent in the team to compete for Leinster but I am baffled by the approach of management.
Its very disappointing that we are getting very little out of Dicksboro. They rightly fancy themselves to win a Kilkenny senior hurling championship but i don't think they have a player good enough to start for Kilkenny with the exception of Tom Kenny who is not on the panel.
Lyng has been unfortunate with players, he would have wanted to try, picking up injuries. Among them G Dunne, S Donnelly, J Molloy and even P Deegan. He did bring on Clifford, K Blanchfield and P Moylon against Offaly. He started P McDonald who unfortunately made no impact in the first half like most. Pity we didn't see him when the team got going in the second half.
The league is very fickle. We all say at the start of the year we wont care to much about it and then it when it starts teams seasons are judged on a wet and windy pitch. Everyone seems to be missing a good few players. It was another poor return from the fowards again sunday but some of tactics were strange.we are a poor coached teams at times. We still playing some short ball for the sake of it but dunno what we're at.We're doing it cause we have to do it. We seem keen on a target man at 14 then play no ball into the full foward line.liam is finding the going tough.
The championship is only about 6 or 7 weeks away and the league will be over soon. Unfortunately stephen donnelly is having trouble with his hips. Unfortunately hip trouble is in the family. The team will start taking shape over the next few weeks but i dont see anything new which is dissapointing. Mullen has being outstanding and without him we would be bottom of the table.if we go into the championship with the same team again it will be dissapointing. We dont have many new bright sparks like other counties.
Mikey has being under pressure a while and lyng should of gave him a few more weeks off.he still has time and he should do it. Its was a shocking first half for whatever reason. Bar 2 players the majority of sundays team have played in bigger matches. The next two matches will be hard and both will want to beat us.
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