Following on from main thread in Current Affairs about Tubs in general (now closed and mod suggestion that Entertainment category is more suitable).
Indeed, entertainment in certain respects is what Tubs has provided, albeit perhaps in a way not intended. And still awaiting 150k payback to the licence fee holder.
And of course, his new career in Virgin Radio which is imminent.
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He left Barry Keoghan until the end of the article and then says how important a supportive family was to the people he mentioned. Absolutely braindead point when you consider that Barry lost his mother to drug addiction and was in over a dozen foster homes during his childhood.
A typo. Well played. We don't all have the advantage of a sub-editor.
His weekly column is printed in the Irish Mail on Sunday, and available online on the evoke.ie website.
A "rank armature"? I don't think that Tubridy's text is quite that electrifying. Is Tubridy's column carried in the main edition of the Mail on Sunday or just the Irish edition?
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Always had that impression with Tub's. Probably the only aspect of his persona that's genuine is his fascination with celebrity and how star struck he becomes in the presence of famous people. It really hinders his ability to conduct proper interviews and as evidenced by that article, hinders his ability to write objectively or say anything of interest about these people.
I don't care what anyone says about the target demographic, that is just shockingly poor, beige, tedious writing. It's regional newspaper level and many working in regional newspapers would count that comparison as an insult. Basically listing every Irish actor of note of the last number of years, mentioning interviews he did with them for RTE and then telling the reader they are all daycent aul skins, solid 'big Irish family' types! No one is expecting Tub's to write a thoughtful deep dive into what it is about Ireland and it's long history of punching above it's weight in the arts, but he could surely produce something better than, "Be gob, that Cillian Murphy is a bit of a quare hawk but a fine man all the same. Fair play to him"
I particularly loved the final paragraph, where he of course draws a comparison between himself and the glittering superstars he so admires;
"It seems that a key to a lot of the success for these guys is family and believe me, at my less impactful level, I can concur with that sense that without family by your side to keep you afloat – and in check – you’re goosed."
He never fails!
Oh no! He started 3 of the ten paragraphs in the article with "I", a rate of 30%. Cue the outrage!
Seems like a dream gig for Tubridy.
NKM probably negotiated a deal negating any editorial input, like buying advertising space in diary format.
LOL! So the MOS just hand over so many column inches to a rank armature to publish whatever he wants without any oversight because (checks notes) NKM says so?
This is a major, established newspaper we're talking about. One who's sole purpose is profit. There's no place for conspiracy theories regarding some kind of omnipotent agent who can bend the will of even the mightiest media conglomerates to his demonic wishes.
Kelly is clearly a relatively good agent, but he's not Mephistopheles.
It's not the sub-editor's job to do a high level of re-write to fit the style of the paper. The contributing author is supposed to have a standard of writing that doesn't necessitate laborious input. They will tidy up the text to eliminate repetition, & rejig paragraphs to give a fluid order to the theme.
I agree with the poster who said that Tubs wrote this article himself. The over representation of the first & possessive tenses in the article is pure authentic Tubs. NKM probably negotiated a deal negating any editorial input, like buying advertising space in diary format. As the articles are puff pieces - a conglomeration of social media posts devoid of prose, deep thought or analysis. it seems like there's no editorial investment at all from EVOKE.ie
Reading between the lines, the poor sod seems to be missing his family.
Hope the IMoS subbies are getting hazard pay for dealing with his copy. Applying the House Style is one thing. A complete rewrite is something very different. The solution for that is often a ghost-written column. Tubridy doesn't seem to be a natural writer and it is beginning to become apparent in these pieces. He seems to write like he talks on-air.
Omg that is absolute desperation
If I squint all I see is "i" "irish" *family*
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Yeah, he's such a truly awful broadcaster that there is no need to make up stuff/guess/speculate to justify criticism of him.
It's a sub editor's job to rewrite the copy as per the style and requirements of the publication.
Whether they're happy doing that job is neither here nor there.
Re the Vogue Williams 'secret project' I'm thinking he might be trying out the laundry products she promotes, what with him having full responsibility his own laundry for the first time in his life, & the freeness that comes with it. Buying detergent products in the laundrette the in the UK is very expensive & overpriced.
On his show y'day he was bragging he jogged 5k in Regent Park on sat, on today's show he took a 'jaunt' in said park on sat. Now Tubs historically refers to a jaunt as a walk, as evidenced by his over referencing his walks down the pier, or in Clifden. So on Sunday he was pretending he was a bigger.
Such poor memory is not the stuff of history teachers, he said on his show y'day if he wasn't in radio, he'd like to have been a history teacher. He can't even get his personal history right. There's another key date he was banging on about when he first came on Virgin, that he seems to have got wrong.
I'd look to run a little side book on
1.when he'll do a link with completed sentences, &
2.not steering a link into an anecdote about himself. However I doubt I'd get the punters, it's far more laborious & painful to measure that, than count the number of paragraphs & sentences beginning with 'I' in a vocabulary-impoverished magazine article . Any takers? Warning, you'll lose years of your life you'll never get back if you take up this challenge.
Oh dear, he's wheeled poor Sinead out again. & there's a pretend new listener. Now he's preventing the producers from playing in a song of Sinead's because he wants to talk more about it. So we heard 30 secs of it & straight to ads.
Think that he tried to make it in UK broadcasting around 2013 or so with his tie-in book "The Irish Are Coming!". It didn't work out. From the coverage, he does not seem to be able to make the break between Irish broadcasting and UK broadcasting. Getting established in another country is difficult and probably more so for someone of Tubridy's age. Tubridy still seems to be trying to broadcast to an Irish audience that he had in RTE but Callan has that now.
Subbies also don't like those with delusions of literary grandeur. That latest article seems to be an attempt to cram as many famous Irish names as possible into the space. It is like Tubridy, apart from being the face of RTE's Tubridy payments scandal, is famous by proxy for having interviewed various famous people. It must be difficult trying to make Tubridy's articles flow as they seem to jump all over the place. He may read a lot of books but he doesn't seem to be a natural writer.
Even if he was doing a good job, I don't think they'd be moving him just yet. He's only in the UK a wet week and has feck all profile. But if he was genuinely trying to make a career for himself in the UK, these are the sorts of opportunities that would be of benefit to him. As we've long since figured out, he either isn't interested in connecting with British listeners or he simply isn't able to.
It's patent nonsense to think that Virgin not giving Norton's old slot to Tubridy is somehow a failure on Tubridy's part.
Tubridy already has a weekend radio show on a number of Irish stations. But he is smart enough to pre-record it. Why on earth would he want to work 7 days a week? Norton is packing it in because he wants his weekends back. Tubridy clearly has plenty of things to be doing at the weekend, and he - like anyone else - deserves his break from the day job. They didn't give it to Chris Evans either - does this somehow "speak volumes"? No, of course not.
Angela Scanlon's takeover is only temporary at the moment, meaning that Virgin have not yet had a chance to establish a permanent replacement.
Scanlon is slated to take the lead for the next few weeks, bringing her unique flair and energy to the weekend mornings.
https://virginradio.co.uk/entertainment/136052/graham-norton-announcement-stepping-down-weekends-virgin-radio
There's plenty of things to criticise Tubridy for. A plethora of things. But not not working seven days a week is not one of them.
So, in addition to not being a great presenter, Tubridy is not a great writer?
It speaks volumes that Virgin Radio is not considering the "king of mid-morning" as a possible replacement for Norton. Perhaps the statistics from the web listeners shows that he is not as popular as expected with Virgin's UK audience. Without the added promotion of a TV show (as he had with the LLS on RTE), he seems to be finding it difficult to achieve any prominence in UK broadcasting.Any word on the Vogue Williams collaboration?
yeah i know it’s drivel but it should at least fit the Mail’s in house style of drivel
Please, some common sense. If Tubridy handed in 24 paragraphs of "fiohjoifhoingfoi dspiojhpoidfhdf dspojh[pdh[odh dspiojhp[dh[hd pojndpioho[dhgd...", would the MOS just publish it because "it's not their job to make sense out of illogical or inaccurate prose"?
It's 100% the newspaper's responsibility, duty, prerogative and practice to publish only what they want to publish, to their own standards.
Sub editors notoriously hate having to rewrite entire articles from contributors that can’t write properly. It’s not their job to make sense out of illogical or inaccurate prose. Their job is to make the article fit the space available- shorten edit and headline it. They absolutely hate these celebs trying to offload their jobs on them
Every paragraph starts "I ......"
Why the unnecessary exaggeration when it's so easy to verify the facts? There's 24 paragraphs in the article. Four of them start with "I". That's 16.6666% - absolutely nowhere near "every paragraph".
Look, the article is terrible. We all know that. But it's the Mail On Sunday. It's supposed to be terrible. That's the target audience: readers of terrible articles. They're a legitimate and lucrative demographic, and it's pure snobbery to think that they shouldn't be catered for.
Plenty of people here asking has Tubridy even proofread it - completely missing the point. First up, proof reading is the act of reading a text to check for errors (spelling, grammatical or factual). It's never a good idea to proofread your own work - it should always be done by someone else, and in this case, it's the Mail On Sunday's responsibility to do that. I don't see any such errors in the article, so I can only assume it has indeed been proofread.
Secondly, there's a Sub Editor responsible for taking what Tubridy hands in and re-writing it for the newspaper. It's entirely possible that what he hands in is a perfectly crafted article, worthy of The Times. Then the Sub Ed chops it up into the house-style of the MOS. Or it could be that the article is written entirely by the Sub Ed from a phone interview with Tubridy. Either way, the article is written in the style and covering the topics that the MOS want, and ultimately what the audience of the MOS want and expect - easy-to-read celebrity titbits and vicarious tales.
There's a lot of things to criticise Tubridy for; an awful lot. But starting every paragraph with an I, and not proofreading, aren't two of them.
I think he has a pay as you go meter installed
Is he on a trial period with Virgin, like 3 months or is it a yearly contract?
It can never be said that I didn't give him some credit.
Aristocratic? Have you totally lost the run of yourself. 🤣 Him and Jackie Healy-Rae.
Even if someone is writing for him, it's his responsibility to proof read it. You can let it go once, or maybe twice, but every week so far it's poor. Either totally lazy on his part for not proof reading (well we know he's not used to a full days work), or else he wrote the shyte himself and is of the belief that it's good enough.
Reads like something he threw together after getting a text reminding him that the deadline for submission is is 30 minutes.
I'm convinced that it is he himself who is writing it. Joe Duffy wrote for them for a while, we used to read the MoS on a Monday, seems the Sunday night security guard was a patron. It was a bit better than Tubs, but dire stuff nonetheless.
Who is writing that for him? It is bad beyond belief, surely the powers that be in the Daily Mail group are aware of this?
And compounding this lack of talent is the lack of staff behind him feeding him content and cue cards. He has nothing new, so is forced to return to the same gameplay. Again and again.
But if he repays the 150k I'll forgive him by simply forgetting he exists. Until then though....
