Well, if reports are true that waste collection companies are being subsidized for loss of income ie aluminum cans in the bins then the government is losing money. If so, then how do they make it up-higher taxes, but wait waste collection rates have gone up so maybe the extra Vat may compensate. Either way it s lose lose situation for the consumer.
"reports" on here have, so far, come from one person who is exceptionally anti this scheme. I've not seen any proof whatosever as yet.
Yeah, I understand why it's lose/lose for the consumer. I was trying to figure out how the government are supposed to be making €€€ out of it. It seems more like MUP to me, bad for the consumer but nothing extra added to government coffers.
Lets not beat around the bush. Only time Ive seen binman subsidies mentioned as fact was from magic_murph. Any sources for this @magic_murph ? Would make for an interesting read..
I think we can all agree on this.
We definitely need to know what proportion if any of bin charges increases was due to the DRS.
We also need clarity on whether there has been any subsidy to bin companies to recompense them for the loss of recyclable materials and who paid it.
Are they the suits brains dopes behind this new scheme?
Pictured at the launch of Ireland's Deposit Return Scheme was Minister of State with responsibility for Public Procurement, eGovernment and Circular Economy, Ossian Smyth, Tony Keohane, Chairman of Re-turn and Ciaran Foley, CEO of Re-turn. Picture Andres Poveda
Looking at the pic that jj880 posted, has somebody been twisting The Ministers arm ?
Or did he get it caught in the machine? Or maybe he's right handed and wore it out writing up endless ineffectual legislation?
He tried carrying his Re-Turn brown envelope without a forklift.
Well then, Feast your eyes on this!
its maybe possible that they already went up last year in preparation for this. i vaguely recall them using "transport costs" for the recyclables as the excuse sometime last year. But then again that could have just been another businuess jumping on the the covid banwagon or ukraine thing, or something fuel/carbon tax based as an excuse to jack up price.
Either way whatever happens, the public are stuck dealing with the bad end of everything with an increase. even if its things that have nothing to do with ireland. Another green tax as alot of people have already put it.
no, this was previously addressed somewhere in the other thread. it was either a case of him trying to steal a bottle back out of the machine and it went wrong, or else they were testing out some security feature on the machine when it was initially programmed to punish people who put non-return logo cans/bottles into the machine. This feature has been removed, it was a proto-type. The arm in the sling was from the guy forgetting to turn that setting off when testing the machine.
Lad in front of me in Aldi tonight tried to buy his shopping and two cans using a DRS receipt to offset the cost, cashier said cause the receipt came from a different Aldi it couldn't be used there, he chose to put back one of the cans, heartbreaking stuff.
They arr'nt wheelchair accessible yet, as they don't have a ramp built onto them, or pole's at the side for wheelchair users to hold onto.
as far as i've seen, from the many RVM's i've been to, that is. It's possible that there may be 1 or 2 wheelchair accessible RVM's in ireland, i have yet to see one though. it's possible in a few months time some may be built if there's enough backlash over it.
could be the case in my experience Musgraves isn’t terribly concerned with consistency across the brand.
I’ve never had two Frank & Honest coffees that were the same, never been to two or more centra or SuperValu stores that had the same atmosphere etc either!
Could well believe their policy on the matter is do whatever you want.
So the question is are you a raging alcoholic, or are you printing barcodes, or is it a blend of both.😂
Oh they are? Could you care to explain how exactly?
I don’t think myself stupid and I also feel I am a good problem solver, but being about 6ft1 the machines can hole, I suppose, are chest level.
So exactly how do people in wheelchairs successfully insert multiple cans?
I mean a disabled person has given their own account of not being able to use the machine but Hotblack Desiato has the simple solution for them all.
which is…?
Yes I was wondering about this, LIDL is the same according to their website, seems to have been updated to what I read last week which was confusing. I can understand SuperValu not allowing it as some are independently owned.
If it was Galahad cans he was buying he deserves it out of stupidity 😂
Unfortunately i am neither of those things. Also looked into the barcode thingy strictly for educational purposes. Sadly it's not something i would reccomend to anyone, and also not worth investing any time into, as the start up costs for something like that is'nt feasible enough to justify it. Seems like too much hassle for anyone that does'nt already have whatevers needed. too much technical knowledge needed also and knowing how to print and source the barcodes from online into a jpeg file or whatever. And then resizing it to fit the desired size, and then the special sticker paper too. i have no knowledge on downloading codes or faxing or print screening or whatever it is.
its easy for people to suggest, much harder to actually do. not saying it isnt possible, just saying its not really worth it.
if i worked somewhere that had access to a sticker printer, and one of them paper scanner to digital file thingys, then my opinion might be different for experimentation reasons and purely educational purposes.
Okay, then what is he answer to having the 350 plus cans and bottles you've put in the machine so far, where did all these cans/bottle come from.
maybe they’re robbing the neighbours recycling bins.
objection your honor, call for speculation! XD also if that were to be the case (or should i say toby the case), then that would be like the whole entire road's worth of bins. And what are the chances that all neighbors would be deciding to put their valid returnable recyclables in their bins?
its making a huge leap and assumption that my whole entire road all decided to boycott the return scheme, not take part, and insist on using their green bins like before.
..😅
Bollocks
Not enough cans/bottles in neighbors bins, so come on, spill the beans, something not adding up, you have to have commercial access to returned items
funny how you tell us what you’re not doing but not what you are… hmm the boardsbottler doth protest too much.
I'm sure that made sense in your head, care to share?
They are wheelchair accessible.
The lady who was complaining has no arms, it's pretty hard to imagine a machine which could accommodate her needs unfortunately.
This scheme really is designed for families who do a weekly shop and can return cans, who are probably recycling anyway.
Not being able to use your vouchers in different Lidl stores or whatever is just baffling
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