Hello Everyone!
newbie here. I’m browsing houses in Dublin. I work at the airport and my husband works in the city center. We are on rent right now paying 2300 for 2 br.
looking for a house/ apartment to buy. I found these two apartments attractive, planning to go on with one of them.
if you were in my shoes, why wouldn’t you go forward with one of these apartments?
https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/apartment-apartment-28-addison-hall-addison-avenue-glasnevin-dublin-11/5453811
Agree about the bars and restaurants - its a very lively area and gets lots of tourists. Great place to live if you enjoy the constant hustle and bustle of the city centre, don't mind traffic noise/fumes/litter, like shops and cinemas in walking distance and don't need to have a car or parking. TBF that particular apartment was very nice, bright and spacious with the large roof terrace but the views of the surrounding rooftops wouldn't appeal to everyone. Also management fees were steep at +4k so an extra €330+ monthly on top of mortgage. Better options elsewhere imo.
It has IMO the best cinema in Dublin, as well as close proximity to a lot of great bars and restaurants if that's your kind of thing.
The square itself though would break your heart. Had so much promise when it was being redeveloped but has turned into a thoroughfare for a lot of junkies and beggars. Never seems to look clean too no matter how much it's actually cleaned.
I saw several houses in the 300-375 bracket in nice areas with excellent amenities plus good public transport links to airport and city centre. If you search in a higher price range there will be more choice. If you are not familiar with an area, you need to visit at different times, research transport links, shops, parks, services and facilities etc then decide if you prefer an apartment or house. For many people the location is more important and the choice between house or apartment is secondary.
Go have a walk around the area some nice evening. Particulary less than 5 mins walk down towards carlton way and walk around there, if you dare. Even the trees there have crash barriers. I personally wouldnt live anywhere near there, just because I would not want to raise kids around there, but if you dont mind the area then go for it. At the end of the day that road looks fine to live on, but around it there are much worse areas.
Other than the airport runway proximity, do you guys think this area is really the worst considering the price? I just want to know what is wrong with this area
To be honest I’m planning to go up to 400-450K under current market conditions if I think about a house rather than an apartment
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Convenient to the airport.
That first ad is gone and second is sale agreed. The only thing going for smithfield is proximity to the city centre.
Agree with others that a house might be a better bet. Whats your price range OP, is it between €300 and €375?
A 5 bedroom house for under 300k should tell you all you need to know. Look how close you are to the Dublin airport runways.
What do you guys think about this?
Look for pyjama wearing in the area. In posh areas they wear pyjamas in bed. In bad areas they wear pyjamas in public.
Yes, South really feel different all right.
In what world is that Finglas? It's next door to the Holy Faith Glasnevin. Friends of mine lived in that development and loved it.
To be honest, if you've just come to Dublin as a foreigner you discover right away the differences. Multiple people have told me North and West feel like a different city than South... quality of the houses, quality of the roads, amount of litter, the way people look and how they speak. Plus news about violence and antisocial behavior that seems to happen mostly in the North and West. If you're a Dub, probably it's not standing out as much.
Boards has always had a healthy crop of contrarian shut-ins who think anything north of the Liffey or west of Rathmines is Mad Max territory. Wonder if many of them even live in the city. Anyway, they can be safely placed in the "pay no mind" column
People on here calling that area a kip? Dear lord, I would love to see where they live, must be Beverly Hills.
I have a friend who was in a 2 bed own door apartment in a development of about 150 mixed (Block apartments, 3 beds, 1 beds, some with own doors, some in block with hallways).
He was paying €2500 as was every other apartment. He didnt get the use of the fire alarms, corridor cleaning, lifts, corridor heating, lighting etc etc so he felt his portion of the fees was far too high for the services he was getting compared to other types of apartments.
He got himself voted on to the MC and discovered that the others on MC were paying the same fee for much more use of the services. He raised this and looked into a fair way to delegate fees based on the use a property was getting from them. After a bit of pushback he eventually pushed through an amendment that everyone was happy with. His fees dropped to €1500. The 1 bed own door apartments dropped to €800. The ones that required the lifts and corridor maintenance inside the blocks were weighted according to size for those services they used too.
It was a much fairer way to operate the charging structure. So get yourself onto the committee and look out for yourself.
Finglas is mostly a shít hole. Plenty of lovely people live there, but a higher than average percentage of scumbags make it a very undesirable place to buy a home. Luckily, the apartments you are looking at are not Finglas. However, they are expensive. Would you consider the one posted in this thread in Smithfield? Looks lovely and whoever works at the airport would be driving in the opposite direction of traffic to get to work. Personally I wouldn't buy an apartment because of fees, restrictions and in most cases, no way to charge an EV.
As the OP, I find the debate around mngmt fees useful. However, I like to hear more about which areas in Finglas or Glasnevin is good, better, average etc. I know there are other threads discussing this but still some insight from people living/lived over there would be great. Thanks everyone in advance
dont see any fees mentioned in any of the apartments on daft ? yes once u view/query they will tell you ! New builds including houses have management fees afaik !
You can very much assume the house you are buying has no management fees as it will be stated in the property listing, any searching you do about the development and the contracts you sign when you buy the property.
Literally every step of the way.
Debate to be had over management fees maybe etc. But anyone saying location, might be D11 but it is nowhere near finglas in reality.
You're about a 12min walk to the Botanic Gardens, Met Eireann office down the roads and several restaurants/pubs around there.
Cremore/glasnevin would be much more a mature and quiet residential area with bus routes, and commuteable to the City centre.
It's not as if it's some new build in Finglas west. And look, there's good parts of Finglas too. But it isn't that end at all.
Well of course but you can make a decision not to buy a property with mgmt fees, I never would..
Good debate... i know people who have bought houses paying 800 management fees ! Depends on what is the setup. You cannot assume if you buy a house you wont have management fees :) !
man oh man you really like throwing money away :) Makes no difference to you "whether its €1850 or €3850" WOW! I think you will piss alot of ppl off with that statement :)
See you have no response to my points?
Can you show us a typical breakdown of what your management fees were spent on last year i.e. how much you paid and breakdown etc So we can see for ourselves if it is being spent wisely?
Another who has little understanding that there are many variables.
The average is €1500 - €2500 on low rise apartment blocks which many are. One of mine are in 3 story blocks with no lift and the other is in a 2 story block.
It increases if more services are supplied eg lifts, concierge, large grounds etc.
For the two omc's mine are in they have near 100% payment and a decent sinking fund. But frankly it makes no difference to me whether its €1850 or €3850 once I know the money is properly accounted for.
The reply is in relation to a previous post - maybe read replies in the context they were written. Its not difficult
I wouldn’t rule out the entire township or whatever it’s called, of Finglas.
Yes I’m aware of past history of the place but a few things to consider:
If purchased at the right price, even a doer upper would likely save you money compared to this apartment along with - no yearly fees or concerns for demands for payment for big repairs etc
The OP currently has no kids- even if a couple came along a house is usually much better for parents than an apartment - unless there’s a total property crash like we saw in 2008 I don’t see prices of houses in Finglas going down - it’s too close to the city so it will always be in demand.
Given the current housing market, it’s only a matter of time before Finglas becomes a desirable location - any community who’s population is slowly gentrifying will only see houses prices in that area going one way- and that’s up.
If I were limited by the income threashold the OP has and was looking around the north side I’d pick Finglas any day over this place
I wouldnt say 1650 - 1850 is shag all - especially for what your getting. And this increases all the time, plus the large payouts that are requested for repairs etc, its a complete joke. Again a large portion of the fee is to pay the mgmt company as well for the 'service', I would prefer to do myself, definitely trust myself more
But yeah he is pretty clueless alright, probably gullible is more appropriate :)
Yeah so you pay shag all on mgt fees. Come back to me when that’s 4 and 5K. Clueless.
Good for you... but see below, as I said I would never buy an apt, so its not my personal experience but other ppl's misery (plural)..
again I would not have spent any where near 1650 on my house last year on repairs or other such costs.. I definitely did not have to worry about / or pay anything towards "There are certainly improvements that can be made especially on errant payers which are very costly to chase," lol I assume a large portion of your 1650 - 1850 is spent on that - good for you :)
As you quoted 300 for waste and 450 on ins, is that what you pay - maybe look into this as your mgmt company are not as efficient as you think :)
That you don't have a proper understanding of managing an apartment block, is your own issue.
There are certainly improvements that can be made especially on errant payers which are very costly to chase, but well run management company is beneficial to all owners.
You may have been involved with a poorly run one (and there are many), but don't tar them all with your singular experience.
I've 2 pension properties in two different schemes. Both have very strong management (I checked before i bought), both have sinking funds well in excess of 100k and annual fees are €1650 & €1850 respectively. The huge advantage is the OMC directors are professional in their approach whereas in some schemes you get petty people who see it as their fiefdom and that causes major problems.
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