You're digging yourself a deeper hole with each silly post. How often we see this: a pro Putin scream that gets simultaneously louder and fainter before ending in the silence of a swift threadban. You guys show your cards far too quickly.
With the headbangers on the other side it tends to be a more gradual process.
Both pollute the otherwise sensible chat and debate here
"Russia's economy grew 3.6% in 2023 after a revised 1.2% contraction in 2022."
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-war-economy-faces-tough-times-ahead-says-imfs-georgieva-2024-02-12/#:~:text=Russia's%20economy%20grew%203.6%25%20in,revised%201.2%25%20contraction%20in%202022.
In both articles it refers to taking Kiev (a city) in 2 weeks.
Where is the quote for taking UKRAINE in 3 DAYS ?
I'm still very surprised that we've heard nothing from the North Caucasus the last months.
Considering the limits placed on Ukraine about striking targets in Russia I really thought a fairly basic play would have been to sponsor militant groups there to start creating some civil discord in Russia and divert more resources. Go back a generation and the region was a real hotbed of anti russian movements.
Yes there was a lot of crackdowns there and the Islamisation of the independence movements along with the war in Syria would have made the West wary of getting involved a few years ago..
But considering the situation in Ukraine now and that there are actual Chechen and Dagestanis fighting for Ukraine, and I'm amazed that they haven't managed to make even a token effort there. Seems like a real missed opportunity
Yes, they currently can replace their losses pretty quickly, but at what cost? There's no action without reaction, and this is showing in Russian society. More than a year ago, there were complaints in the Duma about labour shortages, and these shortages have grown much worse. Witness the mega heating / flooding problems in the main Russian cities this winter? And similar problems are presenting in almost every walk of life in Russia. The steam in the Russian kettle is starting to rattle the lid.
But the Russians are dying, they are losing equipment, tanks,ships, planes,their factories are burning, their refineries are burning,their economy is dieing ,if the war ever end China/Poland will walk in to Russia and take it over easily, probably split it up like Russia/ America did with Germany .
If its 400k Russians how many Ukrainians? I'd say twice that figure...its been a turkey shoot the last few months with poor unfortunates with no military experience dragged off the streets and loaded into vans in Zelenskys "democracy"
If Ukraine had such missile building capabilities, for sure there would be far fewer Russian missiles raining down on them.
Yeah, they should have just surrendered on day one and let Russia take their country.
Let's hope you're never invaded, people like you would be spying for the enemy.
Really?!? Each week it was a different one that would surely turn the tide in Ukraines favour from NLAWs to leopard tanks to Patriot missile defence....it didn't....
You do know the difference between deciduous and evergreen conifer? Look at the trees again, and the ground is clear of fresh vegetation. Not saying this is new video however but it does look like late winter.
They haven't sent any wonder weapon and yet there's over 400k Russian soldiers removed from action all because one man wants a bit more land
Indeed...keep believing in the next wonder weapon the west sends
I see some deciduous trees with leaves = not winter
Ukriane are losing this war and thousands of Ukrainian lives have been wasted...Zelensky would want to have a good bunker hideout when this is all said and done
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/gen-milley-says-kyiv-could-fall-within-72-hours-if-russia-decides-to-invade-ukraine-sources.amp
Another example of the bullshit we're being fed...it was American military brass that said that.. dont let that get in the way though
They are making some 155s in Poland, I believe.
Where'd winter go?
Yes I was being sarcastic about the TGA article being defeatist, it's anything but. Very much a call to arms and a warning against complacency
Ukraine will get more munitions and the Russian public will finally reach a tipping point of discontent.
Russia will be screwed by the end of this year.
See above ^
Edit: Just to say, I wouldn't agree that on the whole that this article is defeatist. More a reality check and call to arms.
I've seen the guardian and BBC amongst others repeatedly called outlets for Kremlin propaganda on this thread anytime they post something that does not paint a rosy picture of the war. Generally by the same people who called Scholz a communist Putin lover in the early months of the war and who used to post dodgy twitter sources insisting Russia will run out of ammo in 2 weeks or that Putin has at most 3 months to live.
Sure, BBC and guardian get it wrong sometimes and some journalists have mixed agendas, but they get it right far more often and anyone who thinks they secretly support Russia is, with all due respect, deluded and blinded by ideology, it's like Trump's "fake news media" just coming from a different angle. Anything that doesn't fit preconceived narrative is judged a lie. I find it kind of pathetic, but I guess it's people's right.
Last note on the guardian: check out the TGA article posted above if you still think the G is basically defeatist and pro Kremlin
I read that this morning and I actually think it's a good article. So it definitely more depends on the author than the media.
I fully agree. The Wests messaging so far has been weak. And their actions hesitant. For such an existential threat to our entire way of life you'd think we could at least say the right things.
Instead of "We need to support Ukraine as long as it takes" it should be: "We need to support Ukraine until they have won decisively"
Instead of "Vladimir Putin has failed to achieve his goals" it should be: "Vladimir Putin has failed and we must ensure that failure is complete and the man dragged to justice"
Instead of "Ukraine has a right to defend itself against Russian aggression, allowing Russia to win would set a dangerous precedent" it should be: "Russia must be publicly flogged and made an example of. It must be shown beyond the shadow of a doubt that dictators will be face severe consequences if they dare tread on the toes of democracy".
Unfortunately it's very hard to get politicians to say definitive things. They will always duck and dodge and hedge their bets. There's a rally this saturday in dublin just FYI. I know Ireland can't really do much but best make these voices heard.
Are Russia actually gonna target a munitions factory over a block of residential flats? I'm gonna go for the latter.
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