If Ukraine had such missile building capabilities, for sure there would be far fewer Russian missiles raining down on them.
If its 400k Russians how many Ukrainians? I'd say twice that figure...its been a turkey shoot the last few months with poor unfortunates with no military experience dragged off the streets and loaded into vans in Zelenskys "democracy"
But the Russians are dying, they are losing equipment, tanks,ships, planes,their factories are burning, their refineries are burning,their economy is dieing ,if the war ever end China/Poland will walk in to Russia and take it over easily, probably split it up like Russia/ America did with Germany .
Yes, they currently can replace their losses pretty quickly, but at what cost? There's no action without reaction, and this is showing in Russian society. More than a year ago, there were complaints in the Duma about labour shortages, and these shortages have grown much worse. Witness the mega heating / flooding problems in the main Russian cities this winter? And similar problems are presenting in almost every walk of life in Russia. The steam in the Russian kettle is starting to rattle the lid.
I'm still very surprised that we've heard nothing from the North Caucasus the last months.
Considering the limits placed on Ukraine about striking targets in Russia I really thought a fairly basic play would have been to sponsor militant groups there to start creating some civil discord in Russia and divert more resources. Go back a generation and the region was a real hotbed of anti russian movements.
Yes there was a lot of crackdowns there and the Islamisation of the independence movements along with the war in Syria would have made the West wary of getting involved a few years ago..
But considering the situation in Ukraine now and that there are actual Chechen and Dagestanis fighting for Ukraine, and I'm amazed that they haven't managed to make even a token effort there. Seems like a real missed opportunity
In both articles it refers to taking Kiev (a city) in 2 weeks.
Where is the quote for taking UKRAINE in 3 DAYS ?
"Russia's economy grew 3.6% in 2023 after a revised 1.2% contraction in 2022."
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-war-economy-faces-tough-times-ahead-says-imfs-georgieva-2024-02-12/#:~:text=Russia's%20economy%20grew%203.6%25%20in,revised%201.2%25%20contraction%20in%202022.
You're digging yourself a deeper hole with each silly post. How often we see this: a pro Putin scream that gets simultaneously louder and fainter before ending in the silence of a swift threadban. You guys show your cards far too quickly.
With the headbangers on the other side it tends to be a more gradual process.
Both pollute the otherwise sensible chat and debate here
Had Putin's 3-day invasion succeeded, the death toll would have been much higher...the elimination of the state of Ukraine and it is people was and still is Putin's goal. Boucha (and other places) are self-evident of that plan. And speaking of Bunkers, Putin more or less lives permanently in his bunker, using doubles for public appearances. He was one of the first to leave when Prigozhin's convoy was on the way to the Kremlin. Zelensky is the complete opposite, he was visiting his troops on the front lines last week, something he does regularly. And finally taking what was left of Ardviika after 10 years, at a cost of many thousands of Russian lives and billions worth of equipment, is NOT defeating Ukraine. If you want to discuss wasted lives, Russian losses in Ardviika would be a good place to start.
Shoo troll
Really now? Lol your argument has been pit forward since the start of this conflict and were are we at? A failed counter offensive, more cities and territority lost, countless lives and billions in money gone, ukraine fatigue setting in...yet we were told Russia was running put of missiles since March 2023
So holding a differnt opinion and not shout Slava Ukraina gets you a threadban now?
I'm tell you what I'll leave this thread and check back in a few months again...I expect the usuals will still be clinging onto any glimmer of hope or whatever wonder weapon the west sends next...deluded 😂
Had Putin taken Ukraine, you think he would behave differently? I can assure you that Putin would press gang each and every Ukrainian male he could, and induct them into the Russian Army to be used as front-line shock troops in his next invasions...Germany? Baltic's ? Etc.
So no sign of them taking Kiev at this stage, pretty disastrous really. Also worth noting for other posters that you are actively justifying the war elsewhere on the forum..
They are weapons, not wonder weapons. And ya'd imagine without them that the devastation that the Russians would cause would be off the charts.
What you say is pointless. Unless ya have numbers, then ya might as well be saying nothing. Where was the turkey shoot? Last report I read the ratio was 7:1 in Adviika which was taken. That's 7 Russians out of action to 1 Ukrainian. We've heard these fairytales of lads being taken off the streets in Ukraine for ages, with little evidence of that. Yet Russia are fielding Nepalese men to the front line which is provable by seeing the Nepal government demanding these men be returned
Yes, in a nutshell. We saw that with COVID recently enough. Group Think is a powerful force.
Which is why the west is so invested in narratives.
Joseph Borrell the EU clownshow Foreign Minister keeps saying it "It is clear that the wind is blowing against the West, it is blowing against us. And we have to win the battle of narratives, on the Middle East and on Ukraine."
If you can't win on the battlefield in reality, invent a different reality.
We already see groundwork for this with strawmen type statments.
After Russia accomplishes it's stated objectives in Ukraine, the Globalists/NATO will pivot and claim it's a actually a russian failure because 'they wanted to erase Ukraine from the map and couldn't do it'.
Never mind that those weren't Russia's objectives.
Says the lad denying Bucha and the various warcrimes in the Tucker Carlson thread that the Russians are perpetrating on a daily basis. Even when ol' Doddery Grandad Vladdie Putty himself is on record on TV interview admitting that they've been lifting thousands of kids from Ukraine.
Different reality indeed.
Ah the globalists, I'd say you might be more suited to conspiracy theories forum at this stage.
7 Russians out of action to 1 ukrainian?!? That's its im done 😂 I've been reading this type shite since the start of this conflict...yet the Russians still managed to take Adviika, I've seen videos with Ukrainian corpses littered by the roadside. little evidence? There's literally hundreds of videos doing the rounds of young males being manhandled into fighting in this conflict...
Where did I 'deny Boucha' again?
Don't believe you view it as genocide or war crimes so they're pretty spot on.
I watched this over the last few nights. it's not an easy watch.
What's truly remarkable is how all of that famous footage from Mariupol in those first few weeks all came from this one photojournalist.
Hmmm
Good article on russian propaganda scutter and it's minions. Awful lot of sex offenders in that network and an ex Guardian writer that pushed the bio-labs nonsense.
There are some things, here, which go beyond narratives.
One is that the Ukrainian people have been fighting Russia tooth and nail for the last two years. This is not a situation which the US or broader 'West' cannot simply engineer. You can provide weapons and training, but you cannot imbue a will to fight. We can see this from the recent US withdrawal from Afghanistan. There was no will among the Afghan army to keep the Taliban out. Similarly, in the Vietnam war and the fall of Cuba to Castro, the US encountered the same problem that Putin is now finding: that he fundamentally lacks a broad mandate among the people he's trying to conquer, and I'm talking about the entire territory of Ukraine, here, which if he'd focused on to begin with, he might have been able to declare some kind of victory by now and much less bloodily for all.
Why do they fight? Let's ask what Russia has done for Ukraine in the history of their association since the fall of the USSR and tally it against how other former Eastern Bloc countries have developed since pivoting westward, with Poland being a prime example. Now let's think of that former Bloc country who joined the EU and then pivoted back to Russia, except we can't because that country doesn't exist. Even Hungary know where their bread is Buttered and it's not in the Kremlin.
Putin may realise that he's lost the hearts of the Ukrainian people, but he's probably not so bothered, because he's prepared to puncture them with bullets.
Thanks @Brussels Sprout .. Its on my list.
Here is what I think should happen. Every Repuiblican/GOP in the house of representativive + Trump should be dumped into a cinema, all together and made watch this from start to finish
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