You can mass laser print barcodes at home for pennies, but non-deposit containers are going to become rare anyway, so the scheme won't collapse.
I was out and about yesterday and happened to pass 4 of these machines - two at a supervalu in a busy square, one at a Dunnes, another at a busy petrol station.
Not one of them in use.
I also watched the latest Grand Tour episode yesterday too which had the 3 lads doing a trip through Western Africa. Interestingly one thing that jumped out was the amount of crushed and otherwise used plastic bottles thrown around the various towns that they went through - to the point that they became a prop in one of the challenges. I guess that's where all our "recycling" ends up?
In any case, my "new" cans are still going into the same place as always - the bin, and when it's full they'll be going into the boot of the car and up to the landfill.
Could they bring in some shite where you have to prove you bought the original cans and bottles with receipts.
Or get a sheet of 24 stickers that the barcodes can go on...
https://www.tiktok.com/@deadcentrebrewing/video/7337749550804880672
That was ossian smyth trying to get the numbers up
Maybe the question is would Re-Turn be able to do anything if they knew it was happening? Would they care?
There could be so many unclaimed deposits they wont give a sh!t.
Its a cash equivalent like a gift card, you can use it to buy the usual prohibited voucher products.
It's not technically a voucher, it's your deposit back, I guess?
I have 8 empty cans of Guinness to return , when I get my voucher from the machine , can I use that voucher towards the cost of another 8 pack? Isn’t the use of vouchers outlawed now on buying alcohol ?
I like the scheme as a concept but some of the implementation is a bit wild.
For self service checkouts that give you the option of printing a receipt, are they supposed to show if the levy applied on the checkout screen itself?
If the security guard noticed you labeling bottles with barcodes, what would they do any way? Ask you to stop? Ask you to leave?
I can't imagine there is anything they could really do beyond that? They are hardly going to detain you while they call the Gardai.
I love the idea of someone thinking this up by themselves, and can only imagine the joy when the machine accepts their handiwork.
I don’t know if they would in fairness it’s not really part of the job description (ie detect and prevent shoplifting)
I’ve rarely known these lads to give a bollocks about anything but watching the cameras.🤣 Thats just my experience though!
Well at this Tesco you'd be slapping on barcode labels right in front of him. Maybe he wouldn't care but I'd be surprised.
Number of RVM sites on the map has crept up marginally again; still missing the one in my local shop that is absolutely working (cause I've used it).
Doesn't make me confident that machines are getting updated with new barcodes if they don't even seem to know where they all are!
Yeah I reckon the security (I believe a contractor working for Noonan) will give many a shite about an RVM and how it’s used.
I’m sure there’s a few mall cop type lads who’d citizens arrest someone over it but most of these lads seem barely arsed to even monitor the cctv 🤣
Is the North also into this scheme as all cans or bottles could be shipped anywhere?
Where did you see this?
Yeah I am lost at this stage, looks like the return logo has become irrelevant already. It seems the craic now is to check barcodes online before going to a RVM (more convenient for everyone!). Paying a deposit also appears to be hit or miss as to whether you will get a refund.
Hopefully it will settle itself out over time but it does not inspire confidence really.
My nearest Tesco has a security guard. You would need to have your barcodes stuck on before you arrive.
Realistically you only need to print one sheet of them, then photocopy them and cut them out
you only have to print out the barcode 😂
lmfao best comment i seen all week. Sadly i was'nt at any tesco's with cans the past few days so it could'nt have been me. But i'll ask a few of my brothers to see if it were any of them.
(also i have'nt tried the sticker thing, all my can redeems have been "legit" done without stickers, and legal in the eyes of the law)
unless one has access to free ink and printing, its not even feasible. ink is insanely expensive
i don't condone doing anything like this
@BoardsBottler this was you wasnt it? Show us your 1000 euro Re-Turn vouchers 🤣
matter of time......
Its been talked about for the last year or more 🤣
If companies are walking away, there's going to be trucks going cheap; as well as staff laid off and ready to be hired to operate them.
I am entirely, 100% in favour of councils taking back waste collection. The current system has duplicated costs everywhere.
A colleague printed off some and did the same, just to see if it would work. At first he said he was only trying it out but might do it for a few quid if he is stuck. Now i think he is on to a gold mine because he has gone all quiet about it and just smiles and tips his nose when i ask him.
That’s my point. When it comes to contract renewal time, or even before then, if companies are making a loss for to this scheme, they’ll recoup the losses by jacking prices any high, or walk away leaving the council to have to buy trucks etc and who pays for them?? We do, again, through sky high prices.
I was in at my local tesco the other day and seen a lad putting barcode stickers onto bottles and cans and the machine accepting them. Seems as though he had printed a load of them to claim back the money for all his non deposit cans and bottles, same fella had about 20 quids worth by the end.. I had a feeling it was only gonna be a matter of time until someone thought of it.
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i rather call these cans non-logo redeemables, or cheat cans, or free money lol. [deleted]
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