No way are half of potential products in all shops within the scheme at this point.
Im still not paying the deposit on any soft drink bottles or cans. The only thing to date that im paying deposit on is bottled orange juice of which ive collected 2 bottles since scheme came in. This would clearly explain why the machines are not under too much pressure at the minute.
Easily half or more of all potential products sold now are already in scope for refund - the idea that there'd be queues was always bollox; the lack of queues doesn't mean there's little returns going on.
The only review it's going to undergo will be a deposit increase(s).
Anyone with an ounce of sense could see an increase in bin charges coming a mile off. Not alone have the bin complanies a well publicised excuse for price increases but they also have valid reason so certain rises on the way.
The long and the short of this is that public cannot even break even with this scheme even if bringing back every container.
It will need review pretty quickly I feel.
Yep, they have good reason now to up their charges.
Maybe, just maybe, would it be too much to ask for the government to give a rebate to every householder on such contracts - to compensate them for their negligence in incorporating the existing scheme into their new idea. Would be fair??
Yeah Dunnes in Jetland was the same the other day, one switched off and 2 (maybe 3?) working. My guess would be there's no point having it turned on when there's so little going back at the minute
He wasn't wearing a trench coat and vigorously "scratching" himself. Still perhaps I was a tad naive.
Or maybe you have a nice rear view 😂
A large Dunnes stores. It had bottles stuffed in it and a rather peculiar looking screen.Probably more down to user error.
Had an older gent ask me if he could watch me use it.
Where was this? Was it out of order I wonder or just not turned on yet as there's still very little in the way of in-scope products out there
You should get an honest answer if you asked for it, yes. The last time bin charges were increased for me it was in line with fuel price inflation. The bin companies had no hesitation in telling me this
I think pricing transparency is important on this.
The bin companies should show upfront the amount of their increases that is due to DRS.
Used one of the machines at the weekend. Out of the three there, one was out of order.
Worked reasonable well.
Alu is worth about 1 euro a kg as a recycled material
25 euro uptick in the rates over 6 months is say 1 euro a month
two collection a month so 500 grams of alu recovered per collection per household
Standard weight of can is 15 grams so 30 cans every two weeks.
Makes sense when you include the pubs/ restaurant
So yes there is a cost transfer: keep the gel handy
If I asked, would I get an honest answer. However logic dictates, that if the amount of aluminum they collect and then resell on is drastically reduced, that income shortfall has to be made up somewhere.
Ya I got a few packs of Sierra Nevada pale ale in there and another off licence that I was charged deposit on, with no label, but went through the machine fine.
And has the bin company specifically said it was down to the DRS that is currently being phased in?
Still, putting them into the recycling bin at the side of my house was working fine.
The old system was working fine for you and for me but it wasn't working overall, a significant amount of people were continuing to put them in general waste or throw them into the ditch
Dunnes stores charging for non Return stamped items seen 500ml water and 4 pack of monster energy cans in 3 Dublin stores yesterday
My bins:
2022-140 for 6 months
2023-160 for 6 months
2024-current rate 185 for 6 months
First time using machine today, mix of labelled and no labelled can, no complaints, very quick. Still, putting them into the recycling bin at the side of my house was working fine.
I will meet and defeat this so called champion.
There was also talk of the re-turn scheme in august 2023
There were increases in October 2023
There have been increases... when landfill rates were increased that was noted in the media and then presumably with increase energy and fuel inflation. Im not aware of any such increases to account for this round.
But, but, but.
I'd imagine the efficiencies you mention are why prices are generally lower. To be fair I'm not complaining about it, your rent/LPT/mortgage will be higher so it works on balance
Is this the first increase this year? Were there any increases last year? All in relativity
Was €18 per month.
I dont know where you are but thats for a Dublin city suburb, a 3e per month increase on the lowest weight allowance package where Greyhound are collecting a lot of bins so there should be cost efficiencies.
It is far in excess of inflation at a time when fuel and energy prices have stabilised.
16% yeah, but then that was cheap to begin with, the going rate where I am is about €25 and that hasn't changed in about 3 years
