Feels like the right time to start a new thread for next year's gigs.
John Mayer playing the 3Arena on 29 March 2024.
Eh no. A 55 ticket should only be 57.27 based on the VAT increase. There's a lot of gouging going on out there.
you’d be surprised how little is made on individual concerts.
Something doesn't add up if little is made on concerts yet we are a country awash with gigs. I cannot remember a time where there are so many gigs and festivals on in the country.
How much?
Really ?
Coldplay grossed 9m last time for their single Croke Park gig.
This time they are doing 4 nights so will probably gross close to 45m.
You trying to tell me that they wont make much on that with a cut down stage.
They did say single concerts. And Coldplay are probably the biggest band in the World. I'd be interested in hearing the numbers on a single gig, say a packed Trinity at 5k or something similar.
Not cheap. Maybe they're justifying it as Air don't play here often and might be a one off that they play that album in full. Will be interesting to see how it sells but guess 5k in a city of over 1m and within travelling distance for lot more people might do well
Flipside of that is has dynamic pricing ever worked in reverse way of tickets being cheaper if there's less demand? Maybe with pricing they price it at say 90% tickets sold so even if its not sold out as ticket prices are higher they'll still make enough
A sold out olympia/vicar st show level might make between €2k to €4k for the promoter. Balance that with only selling 1,000 tickets and promoter could easily be over €10k in the hole.
when you get to likes of sold out whelans etc if you make a few hundred you’d be lucky.
electric picnic as biggest festival in ireland and every possible sponsorship going made €1.7m profit in 2019. They sponsorship element could very easily be the entire profit for the festival.
for like of trinity series if one or two shows doing poorly, I’m talking like selling 3,000 tickets it could easily wipe out profits for the other nights or they might scrape a profit overall due to the bar %.
Concerts are priced at sold out. Agents work back from that. Promoter offering discounted tickets cause it’s badly selling is never good for them because
a] people who bought early rightfully feel like a lemon for buying at higher price. People will thus hold off buying early in the future.
b] artist reputation will be in the gutter if they initially charged €70 and now promoter selling them for €35 in a very open fashion.
that’s why discounted tickets like Duran Duran in 3 arena the other year are so rare.
I’m not really talking about dynamic pricing to be fair, I think that should be banned. Don’t know if Ticketmaster will sell them cheaper if the demand isn’t there, I doubt it though. The other thing I think that it should be mandatory to disclose all ticket prices when the gig is announced.
For some of them they must know they won’t sell out, Green Day in Marlay Park is probably a good example of that.
Both will be finished by 11 as required for the licence application.
Trinity gigs would often be finished by 10:45 so you could be out if there and in the car before Longitude finished at 11, and usually takes a little while to get out, so you could have him wait somewhere for 10-15mins and collect him.
They will just flip the dynamic to normal price the week of and those will sell at that price.
A sold out Olympia/Vicar Show might make 2 to 4k, I dont believe that for a minute.
Thats alot of effort to make very little.
They used to disclose prices before gigs went on sale but they stopped that practice, we know the reason why.
FOMO.
Urrrggh great more Fan Irish total guesswork posts.
Come off it, Fanirish! They'd be better off running a race night!
Not a hope those figures are accurate.
A promoter would barely wash their face if they made €2k off a sold out Olympia.
Sold out Whelans would make a few hundred if you're lucky? Again, nonsense. There's no way international acts would tour Dublin at a loss. A promoter wouldn't touch it.
not lying.
for 1500 sold out capacity event at €30 a ticket.
€45k ticket sales.
€5k Vat element
€1.5k IMRO royalty tariff.
€15k venue rental (could be a few factors but you wouldn’t be renting it for less than €15K, plus could be charged for incidentals like barriers, extra security, in house sound engineer)
€15k-20k fee guarantee to artist.
throw in a few costs like advertising, PR campaign etc.
So MCD/live nation making more than the artist for an Olympia gig when you throw bar sales on top.
You are speculating to no end as per.
Perhaps you mean well and believe your own calculations but you do try and pass this stuff off as fact.
no speculation at all, obviously aren’t going to itemised budget level but they as roughly what a show in a 1500 cap venue will cost from recent experience.
You don't know this at all.
No ounce of accuracy is speculating.
You've massaged the figures to whatever you decide. Pure waffle is all it is.
🤣 Spoofers going to spoof.
You really are the biggest bluffer I have ever come across!
yeah technically, its is owned by Caroline Downey who is co owner of mcd and hoziers manager.
So rental fee, bar take might be a bit weird when dealing with venue owned by someone who co owns the promoters renting the venue.
promoters like mcd would also get a rebate from ticketmaster for every ticket sold, might be a €1 or more a ticket. Ultimately mcd and ticketmaster owned by same parent company livenation so it gets into a weird scenario of the right hand charging the left hand. it’s all very messy.
...Technically
...Might be a bit weird...
...Might be a €1...
...It's all a bit messy.
Your arse might be your elbow me thinks.
And do you have some information or guestimate how much promoters/acts make from a sold out 1.5k gig? Or are just good at pouring dirt/shite at other posters with reasonable estimates?
Apologies I forgot for a second we are living in world where skewed theories and guestimates hold as much weight as actual fact. Not a road I care to travel myself.
This poster has quite the rap sheet of defending MCD/Live Nation at every turn and I can feel like disputing that once every so often,no?
Okay can we not have another Arcade Fire type debate/argument flooding this forum.
