Did you ever hear the saying “ Better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt”?
A stablemate……?
Ah you mean for this guy!
The thing is if there is no end to the stalemate in the next 18 months Putin will redefine what victory is for domestic consumption and the Russian public could swallow it. We all know the only thing Russia has achieved in Ukraine is to show the world it is a paper tiger and that it is no match for the western military, but that won't stop Putin trying to create an alternative reality whereby he fought a western backed Nato to a stalemate. The only way out of this is if the West take the gloves off and gives Ukraine what it needs to inflict a resounding defeat that even Putin can't spin as something else. However it seems there are Americans who want a weakened Russia not a vanquished one, perhaps they fear the consequences of chaos in a nuclear armed state if civil war was a consequence of a total victory for Ukraine
There is no where to go after Ukraine, except Moldova and Georgia, and they should join Nato asap, then Russia is surrounded, and no way would he attack a Nato country. Putin may go the opposite direction and attack border countries like North Korea and China, Mongolia, and Kazakhstan.
Germany did not invade Ireland because they couldn't. Our neutrality had literally zero to do with it. Just ask Belgium.
Bizarre take.
I wonder what kind of an assessment a psychiatrist would make on Putin after listening to that interview. The full 2 hrs? I could only stick it for about 30 mins, so I'll be doing it on the instalment plan.
If Ireland hadn't been neutral in WWII, Germany could've waltzed in and opened another front against the UK. Probably would have taken about a week. Farmers with shotguns vs. the Wehrmacht?
As it was, the Luftwaffe potshotted Belfast in 1941, probably just to see if they could.
Ireland's "Neutrality" likely was negotiated with the Allies - we stay out, so we don't get invaded. I don't think there really was much other reason for it pre-WWII.
You mean more Bouchas? Rapes, torture, etc? And giving Putin the incentive to invade even more countries? Putin has to be stopped dead in his tracks, and if not in Ukraine, then somewhere else down the line. But he must be stopped, thats the bottom line.
It seems to me that the only way to defeat Russia is by internal (economic) collapse. Either that or get some serious ammo. into Ukraine.
I (well...half!) listened to the historical lecture (30 min or so), folllowed by old complaints about the USA and NATO slighting Russia post Cold War that came after that for about 10 min. That was enough for me. Maybe when I have time I will listen to more. Probably not though.
I did notice he said a lot of stuff about Poland in the warped history lecture, almost more than about Ukraine itself. That was only thing that surprised me a bit.
He was really (IMO) painting it as this malign influence meddling away at Russia's borders, and somehow partly responsible for the war in Ukraine. A ragbag of made up or possibly cherrypicked (I don't know all of the history he was talking about enough) grievances with Poland he's perhaps been pondering and stewing in his own juices about.
I found that part quite chilling in context of what the man has done over the last 2 years anyway.
Today's update on losses in putin's forces in Ukraine looks like progress to me:
My opinion on accepting defeat is not going to be important to the Ukrainian people defending their homes but I'd guess Ukraine will continue fighting until the last of putin's troops that invaded their country are dead, surrendered or have found a way to run back to their own homes without getting shot by their own troops.
"The farce of this scenario is that these people nodding agreement with Putin would probably laugh and be appalled if Richi Sunak started agitating to retake the parts of France once controlled by England back in the days of Jean D'Arc - yet Putin's grasping justification that Ukraine was always Russian, going back to the same approximate period, is somehow okay and passes the smell test?"
Along the same lines as this I've had several conversations with Americans who were praising Putin, when I asked them what their response would be if Putin decided he wanted Alaska back they never seem to be able to formulate a reply other than "Alaska is part of America"
One simple question
If you changed he word Ukraine to ireland would you want to accept defeat?
The farce of this scenario is that these people nodding agreement with Putin would probably laugh and be appalled if Richi Sunak started agitating to retake the parts of France once controlled by England back in the days of Jeanne D'Arc - yet Putin's grasping justification that Ukraine was always Russian, going back to the same approximate period, is somehow okay and passes the smell test?
I think as always there's a stench of (unintentional) racism in the Putin apologists: let's face it, there's a not inconsiderable number of people for whom anything east of the Danube might as well be labelled "terra incognita / here be dragons ... and probably Russia?" for all the knowledge and understanding that exists about that part of the world's history. Whole empires rose and fell across centuries yet it never gets taught in schools. The education system focuses on Western Europe to the exclusion of anything east of Germany.
Maybe it's a lingering byproduct of the USSR painting all that part of the map in red, and it's a dismissal that Ukraine doesn't really exist as anything sovereign or autonomous. If you're old enough to remember the USSR rendering it all one amorphous blob of Russia, then yeah, it'd be hard to shake that sense these places like Ukraine don't "exist".
Ya really like even for a Russian to praise/agree with Hitler in any way takes mind boggling gymnastics.🙄🙄🤦🤦
And in case you need a link about just one lie Putin said
Twitter is utterly awful, my feed is full of people praising Putin for telling the "truth " while everyone should have spotted the Hitler praise and reflected.
Sums the interview, sorry audience, well up.
Nope. It went something like this:
On another note, Zaluzhniy seems absolutely delighted with being relieved of his role; earlier in the day he had, not one, but two hugs for Zelensky on being awarded the Hero of Ukraine. Budanov in comparison seemed positively glum.
Didn't watch it because frankly can't be arsed to waste 2 hours of my life on it. But did Putin actually say anything alarming or unexpected in that interview?
Hard to imagine Russia accepting defeat.
Ukraine still hold Kyiv, Russia still hasn't taken it in their 3 day war. In your eyes that's a Russian victory? You mentioned defeat, it means one needs to be victorious. Very hard to see Russia victorious when in about 16 months they have gained little if any gains.
Unless you count little towns and settlements and not cities.
Ukraine is making no progress, is it time to accept defeat
And its still not allowed, especially now, because Putin is increasingly coming under internal pressure, so he will crack down hard on everyone perceived as being less than 100% supportive. I'd say that he will soon be seeing the meatgrinder himself firsthand, once that video starts circulating..
in other news Tucker Carlson considers doing the Putin concentration camp diet to immerse himself in the total "War" experience..
it's a plausible solution, and used in many places round the world. Expensive though.
Hi Paul. The keffiyeh looked fairly daft on you, btw.
you guys arguing with a bot. bot farms are the only weapon ruSSians have left as they might have shortages of tanks, planes, ammunition but ruSSia for sure have no shortage of idiots.
These were the same warnings that went around prior to the military operation which has proven russian military impotence on a world stage.
That russia would expand their army in any meaningful way to threaten NATO while their economy is broken, and all their equipment is chewed up in Ukraine is a ludicrous suggestion.
This has been the USA's cheapest path to elimination of another superpower.
The only thing preventing further russian collapse are the lunatic members of the GOP who are trying to withhold funding.
It would be extremely naive for any country to not have some form of implicit threat to fall back on.
Oh hell, here we go again with more scutter from a (supposed) newbie.
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