Following on from main thread in Current Affairs about Tubs in general (now closed and mod suggestion that Entertainment category is more suitable).
Indeed, entertainment in certain respects is what Tubs has provided, albeit perhaps in a way not intended. And still awaiting 150k payback to the licence fee holder.
And of course, his new career in Virgin Radio which is imminent.
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Response to The BMG.
Just to provide as much clarification and I am conscious of the fact that we may get shtick from other posters or mods for taking the thread off in a tangent, so I'll just leave it at this ok😊👍
Right so these are my thoughts on this OK.
"The TOH junction must be more of a nightmare with Dublin running a live local news bulletin while London does something else"
London plays a song, usually a 3 minute song or 2 minute song and a promo for Virgin Radio and they hit the end point the same after an adbreak.
" It was difficult to spot ‘the join’"
That's because the spotblocks can contain a ton of various items - Virgin Radio, for example have traffic news also during Tubridy's show but Q102 will be playing a promo or going into ads while this is on....
" Q also have Tubbs doing some fairly straight voice tracked generic speed links between songs. Not a bad idea."
What you heard is just one very bland sentence that says "You're listening to the Ryan Tubridy Show on Dublin's Q102" which runs at the same time as his announcement on Virgin Radio muttering "The Ryan Tubridy Show On Virgin Radio with Paddy Power Games". IMO it actually sounds terrible and repetitive as he does it in a non natural tone - and hearing it a few times each hour for 3 hours can be irritating to the Dublin and UK listener respectively.
I’ve seen Zetta in action elsewhere and it’s a nice piece of kit.
I’d agree that stuff like split links/ad breaks are easy enough to do these days but the TOH junction must be more of a nightmare with Dublin running a live local news bulletin while London does something else.
I caught some of the show in Dublin during the week and it was difficult to spot ‘the join’.
Q also have Tubbs doing some fairly straight voice tracked generic speed links between songs. Not a bad idea.
I'm not sure the barter account runs to five fingers. NK will have to call Geraldine & Dee to get that level of convoluted sign off
Don’t forget the other fingers of the glove.
He’s a Fianna Fáil man, a supporter of Callely and many other FF figurines from the past. Loves Bertie.
Don’t worry about the pathology of detractors, so to speak. Look after your own health first.
The BMG, you would be aware of the technology. The only thing we probably disagree on is Ryan Tubridy 👍
But if I post this kind of stuff and talk about radio in general, I will be very quickly told that I'm going off subject. I am trying to keep my critique of Tubridy as to his presentation of music radio and how he seems to think that he is above a radio station's format. And I have no problem with going to hell on him for that.
For those interested:
They have the RCS Zetta system in both Q102 and Virgin Radio - All News UK stations use this. Utilising a system like source connect as a sort of high quality ISDN, they can simulcast The Ryan Tubridy Show.
It is not new technology as Atlantic 252 implemented this system to link their studios in Trim, Co Meath with their studios in London. For instance Marc Brow's breakfast show could come live from the London studio at 74 Newman St in 1998-99 - The audio was fed from there to the HQ in Trim and back out on 252 LW.
In this case it goes to an FM TX at Three Rock. The finer details can be updated by other posters as I'm sure I will be corrected.
The 'split ad-breaks" on Q102 vs Virgin are nothing new. Q102's log has the same songs 10am to 1pm as Virgin Radio and seperate ad-blocks of with identical durations. At the start and end of the split "segments" there is a "macro" or silent file of say 0.0sec duration. It instructs channels to close or open etc. or "rejoin" the main feed as the producer gets the timings right. In fairness, this can prove difficult when working with presenters such Ryan Tubridy - who cut songs, talks over the out times, and don't seem to understand how to work the RCS Zetta system.
When I first read Bobson's post about Noel & Co not reading posts on Boards my first reaction was
'The poster doth protest too much , methinks'
I only say that because Bobsy (excuse my familiarity) told us that he is far too busy with work & everyday life to even listen to Ryan on the radio. Yet he's in like Flynn to offer 'balance & nuance' on here about any negativity about Ryan, & his radio show, that Bobsy doesn't listen to. Now that's a lot of professional love & support, from someone with zero vested interest.
In fact I'm now inspired to take it upon myself to contact Noel & commend Bobsy for his blind support to Tubs, irrespective of cold hard fact. I'll even recommend that Bobsy gets a free vehicle from Renault or Vespa, for a year or 10, in keeping with the beater gratitude currency of the era.
The wise old saying "the lady doth protest too much, methinks" springs to mind.
I find it interesting that a large amount of the more negative posters on this thread aren’t seen anywhere else in the radio forum. It’s like they’ve got this singular obsession with Tubs.
I don’t think the show is good btw - I’m more impressed at the tech that enables the simulcast but don’t see more of our rabid posters getting down to that level of granular detail.
The "interview" last night AFAIK did not make headline news after the event.
Yes he, his accomplices and NKM etc. may not be reading the thread. However, on his Instagram he has stated publicly he blocks certain connections "at dawn" and he is not on Twitter / X for the same reason.
From my experience A LOT worse has been said and even worse personal abuse has been thrown at Tubridy on Boards over the years.
I think this thread pales in comparison.
No one criticised Tubridy for being interviewed by Times Radio.
You, on the other hand, claimed it was some evidence of how well he is doing in his new role, and context to your claims was provided - not incorrectly in my view.
But Tubridy's and NK fans - and of course, you are not one of them - assume that anyone not wowed by Ryan's successes are 'haters'.
There's many reasons that section could be off-limits at that time of day, particularly if the owner wishes to entertain a guest with some privacy.
Unfair to go casting aspersions on Mark Wogan, who by all accounts is a successful restaurateur, innovative podcaster and a genuinely nice guy.
Too much Workers Party baggage. Besides, Workers Party 2.0 (Labour) might want to nominate Bacik if she loses her seat in Dublin Bay South. At least Tubridy could have counted on some FF votes as he and his family (apart from the SF TD) are FF.
Regards...jmcc
And I'm happy to be corrected in a polite and constructive way, with citations. Just as I engage with others.
"Just on a point of information - as you know, I'm meticulous about facts"
Yes, but speaking from my experience, you are also not immune to getting it wrong.
Lunchtime in Mark's restaurant looks less than busy, maybe he is looking for a dig out as well.
he's inundated with many lunch invitations by the likes of Graham Norton & co, ...he's yet to wangle one from Wogan's son.
Just on a point of information - as you know, I'm meticulous about facts - he did indeed receive, accept and engage in a lunch invitation from Mark Wogan. A pleasant encounter, by all accounts.
https://evoke.ie/2024/02/04/entertainment/ryan-tubridy-mum-misses-me
You're right, it's not Frost/ Nixon, so no need for the etreme comparators Gregor. It is what it is, a tiny news podcast from a print media broadsheet, who assigns these time slots, in order of maximising of listensrship, based on metrics I'd imagine.
Whatever makes you think he's a stranger in a strange land. Sure didn't he work in London when filling in on BBC radio, didn't 2 of his siblings live here also. Wasn't he bragging to us that he was virtually a VIP on the Irish Embassy guest list. And then of course he's inundated with many lunch invitations by the likes of Graham Norton & co, ...he's yet to wangle one from Wogan's son. But that's a work in progress, especially now that nothing has come from his 3 week on air hustle for a free trip to Japan (with his daughters). He didn't even get a Katsu chicken roll out of that grift.
And sure isn't he being dragged out to watch the rugby & forced to post pictures of it on social media.
I'm sure the constant churn of Irish tourist visitors to London, who go to his 'Guinness favoured pub' will keep the welcome in London going for him.
I'd love to do it myself, no really I would, but it turns out I'm washing my hair most nights, fetlock by fletlock. Diddums 😔
We can forget about the Presidency and radio presenters of any stripe or ilk. Not going to happen.
Paddy Power are giving Tubridy 100/1. And they sponsor his national UK radio show. This whole idea that he might run for President was entirely made up as a publicity stunt by BoyleSports last summer when he was all over the news. The tabloid media of course ran with it because they knew it would get the hits from his pathological detractors, who were the only ones who ever took it seriously, just so they could have something else - even imaginary - to rage against.
Duffy doesn't even feature on the list.
You can't just decide to make up that someone is going to do something, just because you don't like them and want to criticize them for it (even though there's no rational indication that they have any intention of doing it). Well, you can, but it's not a good look.
Re the Presidency, Joe Duffy likely has his beady eye on that, and the timing of his retirement from contracting with RTE would be perfect.
Harsh. Like I said, not one is saying it's Frost/Nixon, but it's springtime, and a gentle tale of renewal and new starts from a stranger in a strange land seems inoffensively appropriate to the neutral observer.
As for the broadcast time, we're in the digital age - anything can be recorded or consumed at any time, day or night. Hardly an issue.
And of course, her show is broadcast at the palatable hour of 22.00 mon-thurs. No competition to BBC Question Time (Tv) on a Thursday night in election year.
And RT's contribution to the interview is all past tense, his grandfather & cousins, his move to London & basic shopping tasks, & the LLS. If he'd the sense he was born with he'd have uptalked a really good interview on TLLS show that would have created Google bait. Of course he didn't, he's as thick as a bucket of bricks in terms of that kind of savvy. Too narcissistic to see past himself, & too exhausted playing catch up to the pseudo nerd image he's invented for himself.
Whatever the time, & whatever the gig, Tubs has nothing else to offer an interview besides My big adventure moving to London, & did you know who my granddad was?
Nothing else to bring to the table, no other stock in trade, just witter witter witter.
I'll run a suggestion for the title of his next book
'Let them eat waffle'
A non riveting chronicle of a 50 yr old Irish radio & TV presenter who was forced to move to lowly DJ job the UK after being mugged by God in a hoodie. This is the story of his desperate needy climb back to public relevance, after he nepoostitically had it all, as well as €150k if v the taxpayers money.
Guidance warning to the reader
This book may cause extreme sleepiness. Please read responsibly,, and do not attempt to operate machinery, or indulge in intellectual conversion while reading this book. An expurgated Ladybird version is available on line @ dumdumreads.com
Politically, the situation might be quite different to that of previous presidential elections. There's also the issue of RTE people not being fans of Tubridy. In previous elections, RTE's coverage was crucial in getting candidates elected. Tubridy could have been the proxy FF candidate. However, the 150K question would be a campaign killer from the start.
I thought the same myself at times Bobson. Then I noticed that posts on here directly critiquing RT's show, with suggestions of improvements, well, those changes were manifested on RT's show.
Now I'm not saying coincidence isn't a thing, it really is, but I'm keeping an open mind that the fantasy projections may well have a basis in truth.
Don't be so hard on yourself. Your balance and nuance here is appreciated 👍
Whilst I try to resist being pernickitty, I can't help myself
Can we not forget the basket
That's chicken & chips in a basket with Mammy. Such a gastronmical complex dish not served in Ireland since the mid 80's,,& only invented to circumvent the alcohol license restrictions for night clubs at the time (No food = no alcohol ).
On a fun note, his Brexit spin could read
'Mammy is beginning to feel the heat now about our company Tuttle Productions declaring the €150k to the taxman. Revenue have been in touch, & what with me living in Big Wonderful London now, the place with bookshops, tubes, buses trains & laundrreetes, and her living in Ireland, she's the responsible company director now. She's pissed off that I buggered off to the UK & left her in the mire. I'll be coming back to the 'auld sod' imminently to practice imaginary podcasting & faux phone holding.(Vogue taught me well)
Don't worry, I'll still pretend to read books & bombard deaf & indifferent audiences with my vacuous pseudo nerdy non facts. So staye tuned, the king of mid morning misert will be back to waffle on another day. & if Noel can swing it, I'll get an Oireachtas appearance too'. 😁
Look, there's plenty - plenty - of things to criticize Tubridy for. But being interviewed by The Times is not one of them. If stating that puts me on Noel Kelly's payroll in anyone's eyes, they need to have a serious look at their grasp of reality.
Your claim that you ' certainly are not a fan' and are just calling it like it is, is getting more and more suspicious with every post.
It is almost at "village idiot on tour" level for the UK audience at this stage. That Times Radio interview didn't help.
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