Following on from main thread in Current Affairs about Tubs in general (now closed and mod suggestion that Entertainment category is more suitable).
Indeed, entertainment in certain respects is what Tubs has provided, albeit perhaps in a way not intended. And still awaiting 150k payback to the licence fee holder.
And of course, his new career in Virgin Radio which is imminent.
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Times Radio is owned by the same company and based in the same building
But do they share a canteen?
He'd be well used to that so, seeing as its the same method used to pick guests for TLLS
All my prayers are answered at last. His contract must be nearly up and is he jumping before he is ‘pushed’ ?
Along with the Sun/Times and Harper Collins books, which I wouldn't be surprised to see plugged more than other publishers
What about “The Diceman”?
Times Radio has a weekly internship of 492,000. LMFM has about 60,000, so maybe just stick to the facts instead of exaggerating. It does no-one any good.
No one's saying it's BBC Radio 4, I just thought people would be interested in him being interviewed by The Times, since it's been a common question on this thread about how he's being covered by the majors of the UK media.
I think you may have used a weekly listenership figure for Times Radio and a DAILY listenership figure for LMFM there, Greg.
But isn't Times Radio a sister station of Virgin Radio? That wouldn't exactly align with being "noticed by the establishment" as you say. We'll, being noticed by the same establishment perhaps.
Times radio like Virgin radio has a huge time slot imbalance. Most of the listening is to the breakfast show. 340k from Q3 I think. The rest of the day schedule is limping along with very few people listening
A classic example of the No True Scotsman falacy.
I think you may misunderstand how listenership figures are calculated, E.
It's done by an average across the week. So LMFM have 57k on a weekday, 63k on a Saturday and 47k on a Sunday. That averages out to about 55.6k across the week, so I was actually being generous with my 60k, but whatever.
Did you really think they just added it up for each day?
It appears you don't know yourself - they don't average the daily to come up with a weekly.
Some people only listen once in week, they count as one listener. So does someone who listens avidly.
Total listeners will always be higher than any individual days figure (but far less than 7x the average)
Again, with respect Greg. Not wishing to derail the thread.
Weekly listenership figures are what are published in UK RAJAR research as standard.
In Ireland, it's mostly a "listened to yesterday" or daily figure which is published, although some stations may release a weekly figure (if it suits them).
Have you seen a published "weekly" number for LMFM because I have not. I have seen a daily figure of 63,000.
Here Advertise with LMFM - LMFM. (There's a PDF to look at within)
If you have a weekly figure, maybe you'll stick it up here. Cheers.
I have calculated nothing myself.
facts n'all that.
My figures were from this similar PDF: https://mmo.aiircdn.com/301/632c53a61a2db.pdf, which admittedly are a couple of months older than yours, so you can give or take a couple of thousand - but the substance doesn't change.
Look, the weekly figures for the ENTIRE Wireless Ireland sable of stations is 759,000. That's across 6 separate regional stations - in no universe does LMFM account for more than half of that. Forget about splitting hairs, back to the original claim: there's no way LMFM's weekly listenership is comparable to Times Radio. It was a careless comparison at best.
No one is claiming that this interview is Frost/Nixon, but lets not pretend that it's meaningless that he's getting coverage in the UK - especially when people on this thread have been specifically asking about such coverage. You can't just ignore it because it's inconvenient to your agenda. Well, you can, of course - but it's not a good look.
..."lets not pretend that it's meaningless that he's getting coverage in the UK - especially when people on this thread have been specifically asking about such coverage...."
Come on, from a sister station with a reason for doing so! Hardly an independent act of interest in him.
So you can instantly dismiss any potential coverage he gets in abut 25% of the UK's media landscape as an inexplicable Murdoch conspiracy to promote (checks notes...) a failed Irish hack out of his depth in a foreign market. Handy.
Sure, LMFM has fewer listeners than Times Radio. But it cannot be ignored that Times Radio is a minor, minor player and is part of the same group of stations as Virgin and as such the coverage is close to meaningless. He really could have been pulled in to do that interview to cover for a "no show" guest.
If he's profiled in the Times of London then we can start to sit up and take notice.
Anyway, that's a bit of a sideshow.
I'm more amazed and fascinated with how really terrible his offering is on Virgin/Q102 and how it has lasted even this long. But that's my problem.
I'm not contributing financially to it and that brings me great joy on a daily basis.
Bouncing back has been done? No way 😀
Toast of London :)
He played Alicia Keys "Lifeline" and iirc commenced his link with "Haha I'm gonna play that for JOE DUFFY, cos he does a programme called LIVE LINE". If I were a PD, I would be holding my hands up whilst shrugging my shoulders! Does he not realise that talking UP the competition is a complete No-No even on public, commercial or state run radio? - This is crazy stuff.
Someone even further up the food chain at the News UK building HAS GOT to be listening and wondering what are we doing?
What’s Livelive says the 5 U.K. based listeners as they scratch their heads!
... and "who's Joe Duffy?".
You could get your 'Pink Slip' in the BBC for mentioning a brand name.
I think you’d be safe if it’s so obscure nobody knows what it means
If he did actually raise eyebrows in an interview piece then it's entirely probable that the cloud he left Ireland under will also raise eyebrows.
Someone mentioned way back in this thread that when Gerry Ryan died UK radio commentators were amazed at RTE salaries. Damned if his profile rises, damned if it doesn't.
Although pics of snorting cocaine were thought to end Kate Moss's career, but they didn't. On the other hand a pic of Ed Miliband awkwardly eating a sandwich supposedly lost an election for Labour. Crazy world.
No, you wouldn't.
Section 14.3.1 of the BBC Editorial Guidelines states:
14.3.1 We need to be able to reflect the real world and this will involve referring to products and services in our output. A product can include references to organisations, to people, such as artists or performers, or to artistic works, such as films, books or musical tracks. However, there must be no undue prominence of products, services or trade marks in our content. To avoid this we must:
ensure that visual and aural references, including verbal and musical references, to products, services, trade marks, brand names and slogans are editorially justified
Any BBC presenter would be perfectly fine at simply mentioning another radio show or presenter in passing.
Nice bit of publicity there for Ryan on The Times pod. Haven't listened myself.
It might drive a few curiuos regular Times listeners/readers over to Virgin to give him a bit of an ol' listen.
I wonder what Glen from Tunbridge Wells or Margo from Lymington Spa would make of it? I fear they might think it's a NI Protocol or part of the Good Friday Agreement to have an Irish show on air.
He's a born politician in my view, it's in his veins.
Dion Fanning mentioned on his podcast that he interviewed both Tubs and Leo Varadkar. He was astonished how Leo was such a unnatural Irish politician. Didn't work the room, didn't have a word for everyone. Wasn't your typical back slapping 'Hupyaboya' TD. He contrasted that with Tubs, who was the very definition of that forced bonhomie act.
Of course, he would never run for local or national politics because it would involve actual accountability and a lot of hard work. The presidency is the only political office he would every consider because it's ceremonial and comes with lots of downtime!
I think maybe the last 12 months has burned his bridges in that potential job as well.
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