We've seen many fires now of potential new migrant centres around the country and yet not one single arrest yet.
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Of course the immigrants didn't cause the housing crisis, our gobshites of successive governments did, however, the failure to turn off the taps while the sink is overflowing is only compounding their mistakes.
The people focusing on it are simply using it as a way to kick off their own little race war. **** thugs.
Try reading the news, its enlightening
"Invented" capacity crises, ha!
Oh yeah, the trusty "not enough homes being built" excuse. That's an oldie now. Let's see...
The problem isn't the 100 cats and increasing that i let roam into my house, the problem is that there's never enough cat food!
The problem isn't the skimpy mankini I wore to the Arctic, its that the Arctic isnt warm enough!
The problem isn't the 10 golf balls I put in my mouth, it's that my mouth has failed to grow with it!
The problem isn't the unprecedented population increase arriving from abroad, its that there isn't enough homes being built for them!
George Orwell eat your heart out.
But anyway, that's the spirit, go down with the ship.
Of course. Polls on a ballot have consequences. Some randomers asking you a question doesn't. Does this concept really need to be explained to you? That vast majority of people are going to vote for political parties who don't advocate for Ireland to abandon their responsibilities. Explain how that is possible if the majority of people don't agree with it?
1) the buildings where only ever intended for migrant use.
patently false.
Of course I am!
I am literally the firestarter behind everything.
I mean, it's definitely easier to arrive at that conclusion than make an argument against me....
As I said, you aren't remotely interested in nuance despite your protestation. Your just rubbing you hands dreaming about the next arson attack to bolster your jihad again immigrants.
Transparent.
Hard to argue with people who aren't being rational tbh.
Justifying arson as a weapon of political change is not a rational argument, but its the one you continue to make.
I'm focusing on it because I have children approaching college age and I'm stressing about where I am going to find accommodation for them. My friends are focusing on it because they're struggling to keep their businesses going with the drop in tourism. I don't blame immigrants for any of this, I support immigration and know the country needs it. I simply believe that until we can solve the current housing crisis we need to limit the amount of people coming into the country. Go away will you with your talk of race wars when people are facing very genuine issues.
Nonsense. Another one denying the hilariously inescapable fact of the capacity crises. It doesn't exist because you say so? Good luck with that.
You've said nothing there. You've attacked me by linking me to arsonists, but have failed to make any argument against my reasoning.
And do you know why you're doing that?
That's right, because you have no argument.
It's the circular hell of those trying to defend the indefensible.
Yourself and many other did that on here for years, when you argued that the burning and looting of budlings was a form of protest during the BLM riots. It's not hard to be principled about this stuff, but I suppose it's even easier to not be.
Then why are you not pressing the government to address the primary issue - planning and infrastructure. Did you vote for either of the last two governments, because if you did then you are responsible for the **** storm we are dealing with
But you are making the nistake of conflating the admittedly increase in antiimmigrant sentiment for support for the types who would perpetrate arson and have done at least twice in what I have read and I am only halfway caught up with this thread?
I think if the wuestion in the poll was.
Do You support any means, including arson to get the level of immigration to acceptable levels, you would see a large portion of that vote disappear as people distance themselves from thuggery.
Think you should, and others here too if you want to retain any level of credibility.
No point talking about " citizens" in one breath and being ambiguous about criminal acts of arson in the other.
burning 20+ places down only contributes to the capacity crisis.
I never did any such thing. Prove it.
Can you make an argument that is not Ad Hominem (and baseless at that)?
Arson attacks are a criminal offence and should not be encouraged or supported. It’s a matter of investigation for the Gardai and eventually an issue for the courts. However, if the Government continue with their insane open borders, accommodate the world policies, these attacks are going to become increasingly more common and no amount of hand wringing from the ‘right on’ brigade on Boards.ie are ever going to stop that.
This issue will bring down the government within the year, I guarantee it.
As I asked two others, and unsurprisingly received no response, I'd like you to point out out the democratic means that irish people had in years previous, and today, in addressing mass migration.
The genesis of this side effect, namely arson, is the exact result anyone would reasonably expect when a political void has persisted for years, in a situation of multiple capacity crises that are deepening with the concomitant, unprecedented levels of mass migration.
This is easy stuff.
The only complication is the sheer contortion necessary to avoid that fact. And it will still result in inevitable failure, no matter how many twists and loops and knot's people tie themselves in.
You don't have open borders. Stop gurgling MAGA rhetoric it doesn't apply
Cause and effect.
Some people are dying on their feet trying to avoid reality.
I have said it to the local councillers I have met, I will say it to any politician who turns up on my doorstep in the coming months. Do you believe that continually adding people to the country in a housing crisis is making the situation better or worse.
As I asked two others, and unsurprisingly received no response
No, you received responses, you must have not liked the answer.
#ICYMI
The only complication is that you point blank refuse to look at the complex causes of lack of housing and infrastructure due to corruption, rising costs and lack of investment - preferring your simplistic immigrants narrative.
Transparently dishonest
Wants something done and wants it done now and doesn't want to be reminded this is a problem thats been years, decades in the making and that they had the opportunity the whole time to be an active participant in the political process but didn't.
I did miss it.
But your answer is bordering nonsensical.
So, the question was what political representation was there on mass migration. My answer was that there wasn't anyway, hence the political void, hence the violence that steps into that void after years.
And your answer is a "no", too.
Well, there you go.
This 'political void' is it in the room with us right now?
Do You support any means, including arson to get the level of immigration to acceptable levels, you would see a large portion of that vote disappear as people distance themselves from thuggery
The is a simplistic attempt at a gotcha though. Few, or even none, would support or tolerate arson if it never affected a thing. In our current failed political system, where politicians listen to nothing, and keep doing what people don't want, and any form of crime results in change, then the crime is far more likely to be tolerated. This is essentially a political failure that's resulted in desperation, and desperation can lead to dark places.
You just stated, did you not, that there was no political choice in the matter?
That's a problem. A big problem. The type of problem that lays the way for violence.
I'm not sure what kind of contortionist spin you're trying to add to it.
Directly to your not so smart arse question "is the political void in the room now?". Well now is your big fat chance to point out the existence of choice, right?
Is it sinn fein? No
Is it the current shower? No
So yes, the political void is in the room with us right now.
We 100% have open border policies. Anyone who can see the wood from the trees understands this at this stage of the races.
Not sure what Irelands domestic issues have to do with MAGA or Donald Trump but there you go.
The is a simplistic attempt at a gotcha though.
That sums up the contributions of your posts thus far. None of which you've backed up with a lick of evidence.