Bought a bottle today, charged the 15c but didn't have the return logo on it. Assumed as it was bought today that it could be returned, so made my attempt and no luck. Barcode not recognised apparently. Nice system.
Except none of that happened.
<engage after hours mode>
What have we done! Has no one seen or read Maximum Overdrive? We're literally putting ammunition into these RVMs, stationed at the entrance to supermarkets, giving them strategic location to deny humans access to food and medicines.
Dear god, the humanity.
BoardsBottler set out to his local RVM an hour ago, but there's no word from him.
I'm hoping everything's ok
All the inspectors had to do was prove the price hadn't risen due to conversion. There is no need for the inspectors to have a list of all prices for all products for every shop. It being a challenge doesn't mean it wasn't checked and they also said they would act against attempts. You claimed it was a widespread problem and nobody was checking but you have shown it wasn't happening.
The big retailers/suppliers were certainly not at it as so many eyes were on them. Small independent shops may have but that is about it. All of the franchise stores would have been prevented too
There should be a prize for the first boardsie to successfully attempt it. The golden can.
What level of acceptable damage is a very good question.
The machines crush the containers, so that they can't have their deposit redeemed a second time. Therefore the machines obviously can't accept crushed containers. Also, identification of the container is based not only on the barcode, but a visual inspection (and weight) of the container. So they need to be "intact" for that. But yes, whether they will accept ones with a dent, or bent, remains to be seen.
Why does the drink container have to be 'undamaged'? Or, another way, what is an acceptable level of damage in order to get a refund?
A cynic might say it's another way for the government to scam the customer.
I know it's only day one, but it just seems strange to me.
Actually, I was in the supermarket last night, and the couple in front of me were buying 8 multipacks of Monster. I was thinking at the time that they must spend half their lives twitching like a landed fish if this was part of their weekly shop, but now I realise that they were probably bulk-buying before the DRS kicked in.
Anyone else panic buy to save them a trip to the RVM?
I think you should probably start going to a different shop if they're that ignorant, rude and criminal. Tesco, Dunnes, Aldi, Lidl, Eurospar - any shops I've been in definitely didn't up their prices before today "in preparation for the new scheme", so you should have plenty of choice to vote with your wallet and boycott these kind of fringe operators. It sounds like you were unlucky enough to get caught out badly at the Euro changeover; you shouldn't let it happen to you again.
Day 1 and our machine isn't working. Lol.
well considering last time, how i nearly got attacked over asking about it, i'm unsure. not sure if was in this thread or the other thread, but a few days ago i had asked about the price increase i noticed on some of the stores bottles (went from 2 euro to 2.25) and they said it was in preperation for the new scheme, said it was the deposit being added, after i explained none of the bottles had the return logo, they insisted it will work. i don't believe it till i see it to be honest. but as the guy was telling me, he says he just stacks the shelves and only told me what he was told, and then he got told to shut up by another worker and was told to tell me nothing. seems sketchy
anyway wish me luck!
Also you only getting 5 or 10 cent back at the most for each can or bottle because of the new 15 cent tax that is on them from today. Funny nothing about that in the news today.
What's this?
What do you think your chances of surviving the encounter are?
Well that me done ever buying a bottle of anything again unless I really really am stuck for it.
Stupid return scheme. I can see a scanddl on this in a few years where the machines stop working or need to be replaced every 3 or 5 years or whatever and there is uproar by the shops as they have been told theses machines should last at least a decade.
If old bottles and cans could have been recycled too this woukd have been brilliant Bd elukd have been a great way to clean up our country but no it's only new ones so it's stupid.
i will try and use one, there's a shop 15 minutes away from my apartment. they put up the price of their bottles to 2.25 despite none of them having the return logo. i have an empty one which i will be bringing
i will also look for a bottle with a return logo on it (if they have any) and i will drink it and try putting that bottle in too, to see if it works (if it has the logo i see no reason why it shouldnt).
i am typing this as i am on my way out the door
So, has anyone got to use an RVM yet?
Clicking around the (incomplete - still missing a pile of Supervalus that definitely have machines; if not more) map shows some places that you might forget are actually large enough to be required to do returns - full size M&S, the biggest Polonez stores, some Mr Price outlets, some Dealz outlets
In the "under 250sqm but doing it anyway" category there are a handful of Molloys offos (someone mentioned their local offo doing it), quite a lot of Eurospar stores and all sorts of random petrol stations, Centra/Mace/Londis/Daybreaks in smaller towns.
Another oddity is that some of the sub-chains within Supervalu are just down as that chain name, e.g. Kavanaghs who have stores up the west coast. Will make it look like there's less Supervalus if you just scan the list.
not spoofing at all, and your examples are modern day uptodate prices, not those from when the changeover happened "Unfamiliarity can lead to situations where companies try to take advantage of the euro cash changeover by raising prices. We have had this debate in many countries, and it remains a challenge for public authorities and consumers to scrutinise price-setting behaviour closely and act against obvious attempts to take advantage of the situation" https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/key/date/2007/html/sp071126.en.html
we have no price commissioners in ireland "In general, there are no price controls in Ireland. This means that, in most cases, there is no minimum or maximum price for goods or services. This is to allow for competition among businesses.
A shop is not breaking the law by charging more than their competitors. If you feel that you are not getting good value, then you should shop around for a better price."
https://www.ccpc.ie/consumers/shopping/pricing/
yes, and i miss the €1.50 price. dealz came to ireland way after the euro, like 2008 or 2010 or something i have no idea exactly when. i was at the opening ceremony when they cut the ribbon. But that was a uk store/franchise chain setting up shop in ireland so its prices was more likely based off of the uk's exchange rate at the time, which was a fair conversion (or more fair than irish punt/pound to euro atleast). Deals are coming from the poundland franchize in uk. Not the same poundshop that ireland had. Different color branding different products and some simularities only.
i miss dealz prices of 3 cans for 1.50, or 1.50 on bottles. (sometimes 2 bottles for 1.50 if lucky.) now a days their prices have gone up insanely. 2 cans for 1.50 or for 2 euro. all bottles 2 each or 2 for 2.50.
Yes exactly! indeed! "Some businesses did take advantage of the currency exchange to raise prices."
i don't mean about duel pricing (which still exists in some places where it displays uk pound and euro price)
i'm speaking more in regards to some shops taking advantage of the euro changeover to mask/hide price increases.
Because you said pound shops all switched to €2. Its a while since I was in a Dealz, but it was €1.50 upto 2020.
deals is actually €2 at the moment or 2.50, not that it matters anyway. they started off claiming 1.49 when they first opened up in ireland. but they didnt open up around the time of the euro change. so idk why its even being mentioned here
Dealz is €1.50. A slight increase from €1.27.
No, i specifically remember people being taken advantage of, not just the pound shop example, even local corner shops was notorious for it.
football preimer league football stickers was 30pence to 45 pence. on the week leading up they became 50 pence. As soon as euro came in the shop was charging €1 per pack, it was'nt until people stopped buying them, did the store reduce the price to 75 cent, and then 55 cent the true price they should have been all along after the change.
"Some businesses did take advantage of the currency exchange to raise prices"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_euro
funny how the toys and things with the £1 pound sticker on it, suddenly changed to €2 in price overnight then.
That didn't happen. You're spoofing. Again.
And the minimum price in a Pound shop was never a pound. They sold things for less, and pound shops in the UK still sell for less (and more) than a pound.
And current "2 Euro shops" like Eurogiant sell things for less than €2:
and more than €2
Like any complicated changeover, the Deposit Return Scheme will have its hiccups. But we as a nation have a solid history of large-scale, systematic changeovers. We plan for and handle them well.
You do know that it is 24 years since the change and inflation will have made its mark on prices AND wages. Back in 2000 the minimum wage was €5.60, it is now €12.70.
There were no issues. Most discount shops went to €1.25 for items previously £1.
Pound city / apollo changed to Euro2 and had everything €2 or less with price points €1, 1.25, 1.50 1.75 & 2.00.
Even today many items are still €1.50, though I believe Dealz have moved to €1.75 for a lot of previously 1.50 items.
So like almost all of your post on the subject you are shown to be entirely wrong and mis-informed.
same! i still remember the day i got my first euro coin. i even remember years leading up to it there was rubber/erasers with the euro coins on them so we got to see what they look like sometime before actually getting them.
i miss the old irish money for nostalgias sake, its funny whenever i see the old money i laugh idk why. i love the old irish money. if it wasnt so expensive i would by some for nostalgias sake.
It's engrained in my memory from those fun times !
funny how the toys and things with the £1 pound sticker on it, suddenly changed to €2 in price overnight then. Minimum price has since been €2 euro, despite previously being £1 ever since the day before that. There's no talking around it.
