That's what I'd be thinking I'll stick with the grass until I can afford to be pitting that type of stuff.
Would you plough in the dung or would it be ok to disk the stubble field.
Is it free draining and fairly level as In not hopping out of the seat of the tractor. If so a quick disk and set the seed with power harrow would be my suggestion. if you think its compacted its ploughing and tilling. Lads power harrow in the slurry and seed in one go .....I've never done it. dung would be a serious job on that field
It's good ground fairly level, it has been fairly well minded..suppose there could be a risk of a plough pann in it, but you'd need a subsoiler to sort that..I'll get out dung on it whenever weather plays ball and then maybe look into power harrowing in slurry with the seed..I'll make a few enquiries on that
Farmers that aren't in any organisation are weaker still. politicians are delighted with the likes of them, it's no wonder that rules and regulations are layered onto farmers if the ''vast majority '' of them can't be bothered.
Most EU/ Government proposals seem to be accepted without a hitch now compared to when I was in IFA
We are just being walked on as kg said those who are full time farming just don't have time at the moment and those who are not just don't care really
weak in a different sense of the word than your original comment. A weakness brought about by the IFA. If the IFA represented all different scales and sectors of farmers equally then they would have a far bigger membership, wouldn’t have had break away organisations and may have more members possibly including more suitable people to elect as representatives.
Those who are not full time care just as much but have even less time to spare than those who are full time.
Heard that alright, of a dairy man that blew out a tillage man that had been renting the ground for years.
Dairy guy was disappointed with performance. Saw an arctic lorry and 3 tankers drawing slurry there a couple of weeks ago.
That's a big part of it.
The staffers in Bluebell don't want anything too much like uncomfortable work either. National Council has too many members (30+) attending the meeting for them to operate efficiently - very few get to speak properly especially if they have a motion from their county executive that requires everyone to buy into it.
There's also an east-west divide that's nigh on impossible to get agreement across. The debacle over "upward only convergence" showed that. No one in HQ would make a decision and the Dept used that to ignore the whole lot.
The Dept are riding roughshod over dairy farmers re nitrates but the IFA is so limp now, it can't even begin to fight back.
Having said that, all it takes is a few farmers in an area to get together. I wasn't at this last night, but several (mostly dairy) farmers gathered outside a local village to make a point: https://www.farmersjournal.ie/news/news/waterford-farmers-gather-in-solidarity-with-european-counterparts-803181
There's talk of something happening in Carlow tonight too. This isn't coming from the suited crew in Bluebell - it's farmers themselves taking it on.
Yea continuous tillage leaves even heavy land only fit for tillage, Grazing needs organic matter to get through droughts etc
There's a committee representing every sector, A commitee with a direct line into the department and an executive secretary, mind you sometimes it's difficult enough to get your proposal through the secretaries and if they're not driven hard enough it's farmers own fault, the opportunity is there.
If I was a CO. Chairman now I'd just say F... them, considering the poor support from farmers and the whingeing on social media, why waste any more time with them.
In other news..got over 800mm of rain since mid-October. It stopped last Thursday. Fresh calvers out today and we’ll fire them all out tomorrow.
fantastic sale of fresh dairy cows in the normal monthly sale in Carnaross today (not taaffes sale)
top price over 2500 with avg price around 1700
in calf heifers avg 1100
trade on fire
It's not the professionals job, their job is to facilitate whatever is needed , also bringing a proposal straight to national council doesn't work either, it has to be discussed at the relevant commodity committee meeting and passed at that level first, National Council barely gets through all it's business in 8 hrs without discussing every proposal from the counties.
Action coming from the members on the ground is IFA policy. I know what support a Co Chairman gets with a direction from above,,,,, none
That s alot of rain for ye is it.whats the.yearly average
Between 800-900mm.
Got over 1400mm last year. Someone was saying that’s more than Belmullet.
I had a quick look at the cumulative rainfall for the last few years after reading the above.
Moore Park long term average is 1029mm, but 1225mm fell in 2023
Cork airport long term average is 1228mm - 1527mm fell in 2023
Roches Point long term average is 976mm - 1306 fell in 2023
Sherkin Island long term average is 1188mm - 1377mm fell in 2023
I only looked at weather stations in the People’s Republic of Cork, since it is the centre of the universe after all…..
But I did look at Belmullet too since Dawg referred to it
For the last few years Belmullet has been around 1244 annually.
2023 total is only 13mm higher than the average
If weather doesn’t happen in the PRC, is it really weather?
Cork, the South, got a fair load compared to Mayo and the West.
Must be climate change because the PRC couldn’t possibly p1ss off the rain Gods.
1500 mms here in the midlands in 2023,
Are you happy now Dawg. We're out in support of our European colleagues today.
Latest brainwave to dip into dairy farmers pockets, its getting comical at this stage
Let the people who want to offload their byproduct calves ASAP pay for them themselves to be flown might make them rethink their breeding policy, ridiculous to suggest every farmer should pay towards it when it’s only a certain cohort who are the drivers of the calf problem.
I said this last year, it's only good calves that are exported. Haven't a clue where the crap ones go
Every calf contributes to the calf problem, calves are overproduced,
If every dairy farmer bred proper calves there'd still be a problem.
Alot of people using sexed now so reducing the fr bull calves
Cost of export should be only attributed to the farmer selling for export or exporter why should every farmer have to bare the brunt.
It’ll be interesting to see will there be as many frx/jex bulls going on permanent holidays to limerick this year after the programme on rte back end of last year.
Still allowed, for this year, was a strange u-turn by bord bia/co-ops, you have to pinkie swear not to do it in 2025 and implement a breeding plan, to minimise dairy bulls....
Hundred percent my calves like most others in the country are not a by product..they are less profitable than cows but still have a value when slaughtered..the lad buying them is happy to pay 200 plus average each year and he's not a busy fool..
Why should I lose a cent off my milk to subsidise the big hungry heroes who couldn't get enough.
I don’t nesecarllly think this is a bad idea …..would be a good thing for beef industry ….if exports stop in morning we’re in a world of bother here
