I'd have to bale it is my concern I don't have pit space
Thanks lads, I have a couple of years worth of dung and can get slurry on aswell. Would you spread now and just disc or powerharrow to prepare for sowing. If I spread it now and plough will I just be burying the nutrients I'm putting on?
Every second farm is only 50%..I’d wager it’s much more than that!
If you saw the video where farmers drew in earth to a national road and planted grass seed..it was in protest about any grassland that is over 4yrs old must be left in grass forever more. That locks farmers into dairy forever, and they want out! That’s in Quimper where K.G is buying the organic dairy farm. Thing is, the land there isn’t much use for anything else.
100%!
Strongly disagree!!
Irish farmers are not layabouts and it’s disingenuous to call them that.
Why in the name of God would the IFA and Irish farmers ‘storm the bastille’ about millions of ton of imports when they/you benefit 100% from them?
Turkeys don’t vote for Xmas.
P and k levels would be the worry organic matter as others said would definitely be low
All the organic matter would be gone out of tillage land if it was any more than six year sin tillage and it'd take a few years to build up again. Plenty of nitrogen or clover in the sward would help and it's very important to have the soil fertility indexes high. After that just target the reseeds for slurry for a few years.
It costs so much to reseed now, I wouldn't be undersowing,
Be grand. Grass would grow on your Wellington if you stood still long enough.
A bulky cut of silage would be the main reason for undersowing it
What's peoples opinion on putting stubble ground back into grass, would be in corn for a good few years. The ground would be intended for silage mostly. Somebody suggested wholecrop with grass undersown but I don't really see the benefit? I'm guessing getting some dung on it wouldn't do it any harm anyway.
Definitely a big part of it all
Closeness of Irish farm orgs to beef processors and their impotence in the face of Dept randomly changing regs has a lot to do with farmer apathy too
Irish farmers the most disenchanted dis interested bunch of layabouts..... Irish farmers will never again join together and have any clout as an organisation far too much back biting and hatred of each other
depends on the grade of maize and barley:)
its the second ingredient listed after maize...might be slightly out, gave it to a competitor miller and they couldnt beat price due to volume of soya, the 25% is the figure they gave me....there is some beet pulp with i forgot
Dairy issues are different to the issues driving the majority of the protests I would think. No matter how much EU farms cut back, there is any amount of product available from third countries to still come in and supply the market as things stand.
Beef is ok for the minute as imports are limited. Dairy is fine also as the capital investment hasn't been made in south America to really drive production on there yet.
But grains, poultry, pigs and horticulture are all being undercut. The only real solution is protection from non EU imports.
And that's before Ukraine even getting full access to the single market. It's caused enough issues as it is.
Wrong time of the year for us Dawg . Most of them are too busy calving cows....
On the Maize grades. we are paying around 220 from the port . Its not the farmers fault we are paying a premium price for a **** grade if you're correct. Its the millers/ importers. I'd be more than happy to pay 190 from the port for grade 1 French Maize. Not gonna happen though unfortunately
The only problem with all the protesting is that at best you only get a sticking plaster solution which only kinda solves the problem for now.
The real solution is the problem itself in that some farms will have to shut down and production must drop. Now in the dairy sector that may not be very far into the future. Not many lads interested in going at it here anyway and I believe that almost every second dairy farm in France is for sale.
Drove around Paris today. Might have added an extra hour max. Bar a few diversions and the odd pile of plastic, you wouldn't know much was happening
We're Zen. What's it all about? Haven't seen much about it on our news? Just that they're "right wing". 🤣
Viva la revolution. ......on a more serious note I may not agree with them bit I do admire them........
…and the Germans, Poles, Belgians, Spanish, Dutch, Italians, Bulgarians, Lithuanians etc etc.
Irish farmers some of the happiest in Europe! Good on ye!
At 25 soya your feeding a 24%ration......... now if its soya hulls and some soya bean that's a different story
Things must be in a bad way in France. The farmers are putting Paris under siege and they are going to starve them. Mad country.
I can’t comment too much on this..but Irish millers do use the French system, but class3-4 maize is not class1, iykwim.
Likewise barley. I could give you barley that you wouldn’t give to the hens, not to mind a milking cow…but it’s still barley with the exact same ufl as top class barley (in the eyes of the miller).
You all should go on a day trip to Arkady etc and see what’s coming across the oceans to Irish ports. Be a good education.
Jesus wept.
He follows me on X, he’s from Deep South France. If sbarley isn’t already overground there they won’t be planting. In 3-4 weeks they’ll be planting maize. I’m closed until February 20 for FYM, march10 for slurry and artificial fertilizer. And I’m 1000km south of you.
paying 380 for 16% pr ration, .98ufl, around 25% soya, balance of maize, barley, distillers, can get off the shelf ration at 315
soya is at 530 currently hitting irish ports, down from 580 in last month, thats whats causing my price to stay high, tried irish beans and is a lower quality product and cows dont respond the same
do millers use different ulf/protein in calculations depending on grade of grain?? or is that a trick of the trade??
Has the green thinking completely taken over?
Don’t respond ‘cos I already know the answer. Jesus where do they think their livelihood is financed.
Surely get 1000 cows on that..
Grass, imho, is good for 3,500-4000L?
Happy with that? If not, grow maize. (Can’t buy a ‘dairy nut’ either.)
Historically there wasn’t any need for irrigation up there, but with the last 10yrs, cows are inside from around June to September.
Very little. You wouldn’t need a bob in your pocket to buy that. Anyone that’s well used to talking to banks etc would get 100% finance for that.
Be mad though..when you’re buying try to get grade2 arable at a minimum.
