Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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I can’t see what part of her story could be true because she changed it so much it’s so infuriating to read and she has done irreparable damage to this case
But the fact she even used a false name in the beginning but then had no issue with being in the limelight
I honestly think she is someone with a lot of secrets and doesn’t even know what’s truth anymore
i also think it would be interesting to get the opinion of someone who actually knows her and an insight into her as a person because how it looks is she’s a very strange individual
She has a reputation has a grifter apparently.
A grifter???!
Her evidence made a successful prosecution of anyone in this case almost impossible. I'd say it heavily influenced the DPP not to bring charges as he knew her evidence would be laughed out of court.
Yeah.
Farrell initially used her own name to give a statement re the man in long coat etc outside her shop (who did not match Bailey, and who likely did exist). One presumes this was just one of hundreds of statements taken and not given any particular prominence.
She then used a false name to say that a similar looking man was down near the murder scene.
To me it's quite clear the 'Fiona' report was complete hogwash and simply designed to get the Gardai back to her (as Marie) door so she could feel important and be a hero (she probably convinced herself the man outside her shop was the killer - I mean, he did look foreign after all!). "Jaysis Tommy, the description this Fiona wan gave sounds very like the person Marie Farrell described - let's talk to her, she might break the case for us". Just looking for attention really. Of course the problem was the Gardai then decided she could be useful for their own purposes.....
She should be prosecuted herself it’s actually absurd she hasn’t been
I’m not familiar with that what does it mean
It's funny, in the Jim Sheridan documentary, when they're in the car and Jim Sheridan says "That's the road up to Sophie's house", Marie replies "Oh really, I didn't know that". Or something to that affect.
Is that a blatant lie or did she really not know?
She's a local, It's the biggest event to happen in Schull ever and she's one of the key witnesses who played a key part in the investigation and subsequent court proceedings.
And she didn't know where Sophie's house was!?
Apparently she used her sisters name I read that in an article I think by Gemma Doherty so I don’t know how true that actually is
it said in the same article that guards used the threat against her that when she was a teenager she had a secret child who was still in longford
again neither of these have proved to be true and it’s things I’ve never heard mentioned again so I’ve wondered did anyone look into it to see are they facts
It's a shame you don't have some kind of device in your hand that allows you to search the collective knowledge of humanity.
We don't know that bailey was trying to "get his leg over"
A few posters are taking that view
It can be that Bailey was infatuated some way with Sophie
I found that so strange too because she acted shocked like she didn’t know but yet her statement was seeing the man near the scene
Got it thanks apologies for my ignorance
I don't know if she was lying or if that was a trope on camera for Jim Sheridan to make things seem more dramatic \ revealing.
She claimed not to know who Bailey was, a man as recognisable as him, despite running a shop on the main street where Bailey shopped... yet remarkably becomes Miss Marple over the course of one weekend.
Sure she can't even remember who she was in the car with :)
Lol. No worries.
Grifter just means a scam artist.
It's more of an American word I think.
She said she didn’t know Bailey yet Jules daughter had babysat for her
No-one actually knows the motive in this crime, only that it was particularly violent and cruel. That much at least can't be questioned by anyone.
well it would suit her from things I’ve read
Maybe she just said it without thinking.
It's possible she didn't know Bailey though.
I'm from a small village and I still wouldn't recognise most people.
Particularly that part of West Cork has loads of tourists and drifters and waifs and blow ins.
He is very distinctive looking though and was there 5 years or something at that stage, so you'd think she'd at least recognise him from the pub.
Is there anyone here on the threads who knows her who could actually give an insight into her! Is there any truth in anything about her
I think her initial statement was true about seeing someone outside her shop.
Yes, the strapping 6 foot, 30 something year old, who was known to walk the roads and by roads late at night, who had a history of violence towards women, who was known to be prone to odd behavior after drinking whiskey, who had unorthodox sexual fantasies, who was ambiguous about whether he knew her or not, and who wrote s**te poetry, is a better candidate than the 63 year old, frail Alfie Lyons.
Taken from the Irish times article December 2014
this is the part I find strange this daughter has never been proven to be true
why would this be a reason to make false statements it doesn’t add up
I would imagine she falls within the definition of sociopath.
What is it about West Cork?
Interestingly enough, on a Hurtigruten voyage along Norway, one of the “entertainment documentaries”’ was about a remote peninsula of Norway where evil presided, one evil compounded by another, mainly a whole village embroiled in paedophilia, and a psychologist tried to provide answers but there were none satisfactory except to saying remote areas people with evil proclivities get away with it and dominate the picture.,
I’m not disagreeing with you on major counts there, but is a 63 year old “frail”? I am simply because of MS and not by virtue of my age. I know deftly tough 63++ year olds. Was Alfie of frail constitution? I don’t actually know, haven’t seen a picture of him etc.
Marie Farrell's shop in Schull was formerly Dan Griffin's pub, so he was her landlord at the time.
He also gave evidence that he saw the man across the road at the same time as Marie Farrell.
As a pub landlord in Schull you would expect that maybe he would recognise Ian Bailey.
The man was a bit out of place and caused them to comment on him. (Griffin is dead so can't corroborate her story now)
Now I don't know how Dan Griffin described this man, maybe he described him like Marie Farrell did originally, I haven't seen his statement.
Jim Sheridan is no dope, and would not risk his reputation on a whim that there was some truth in Marie Farrell's story before the Gardaí got to work on her. Before the Kealfada bridge stuff.
Did Dan Griffin say he saw Bailey or the random guy?
A long read in the Phoenix on Bailey and the case.
An interesting tidbit:
The DPP’s refusal to charge Bailey is sometimes put down to the prejudiced attitude of a single, overzealous case officer who wrote the damning analysis released to the public. In fact, two DPPs scrutinised this case, with their teams of lawyers, over some eleven years and concluded the evidence did not warrant prosecution.
Secretly recorded phone calls revealed that the Garda bookman Detective Superintendent Liam Hogan had rather agreed with the DPPs estimation of their case.
“All we have is very weak circumstantial evidence,” Hogan said. He felt all they had against Bailey was a bunch of “threads”. On the other end of the line, a fellow detective concurred: “‘Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. T’is flimsy like.”
https://www.thephoenix.ie/article/sam-bungey-ian-bailey-and-the-media/?twclid=24qlrfpqxg1irg9qzi3e7wu0gg
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