Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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Taken from the Irish times article December 2014
this is the part I find strange this daughter has never been proven to be true
why would this be a reason to make false statements it doesn’t add up
Yes, the strapping 6 foot, 30 something year old, who was known to walk the roads and by roads late at night, who had a history of violence towards women, who was known to be prone to odd behavior after drinking whiskey, who had unorthodox sexual fantasies, who was ambiguous about whether he knew her or not, and who wrote s**te poetry, is a better candidate than the 63 year old, frail Alfie Lyons.
I think her initial statement was true about seeing someone outside her shop.
Is there anyone here on the threads who knows her who could actually give an insight into her! Is there any truth in anything about her
Maybe she just said it without thinking.
It's possible she didn't know Bailey though.
I'm from a small village and I still wouldn't recognise most people.
Particularly that part of West Cork has loads of tourists and drifters and waifs and blow ins.
He is very distinctive looking though and was there 5 years or something at that stage, so you'd think she'd at least recognise him from the pub.
well it would suit her from things I’ve read
No-one actually knows the motive in this crime, only that it was particularly violent and cruel. That much at least can't be questioned by anyone.
She said she didn’t know Bailey yet Jules daughter had babysat for her
Lol. No worries.
Grifter just means a scam artist.
It's more of an American word I think.
I don't know if she was lying or if that was a trope on camera for Jim Sheridan to make things seem more dramatic \ revealing.
She claimed not to know who Bailey was, a man as recognisable as him, despite running a shop on the main street where Bailey shopped... yet remarkably becomes Miss Marple over the course of one weekend.
Sure she can't even remember who she was in the car with :)
Got it thanks apologies for my ignorance
I found that so strange too because she acted shocked like she didn’t know but yet her statement was seeing the man near the scene
We don't know that bailey was trying to "get his leg over"
A few posters are taking that view
It can be that Bailey was infatuated some way with Sophie
It's a shame you don't have some kind of device in your hand that allows you to search the collective knowledge of humanity.
Apparently she used her sisters name I read that in an article I think by Gemma Doherty so I don’t know how true that actually is
it said in the same article that guards used the threat against her that when she was a teenager she had a secret child who was still in longford
again neither of these have proved to be true and it’s things I’ve never heard mentioned again so I’ve wondered did anyone look into it to see are they facts
It's funny, in the Jim Sheridan documentary, when they're in the car and Jim Sheridan says "That's the road up to Sophie's house", Marie replies "Oh really, I didn't know that". Or something to that affect.
Is that a blatant lie or did she really not know?
She's a local, It's the biggest event to happen in Schull ever and she's one of the key witnesses who played a key part in the investigation and subsequent court proceedings.
And she didn't know where Sophie's house was!?
I’m not familiar with that what does it mean
She should be prosecuted herself it’s actually absurd she hasn’t been
Farrell initially used her own name to give a statement re the man in long coat etc outside her shop (who did not match Bailey, and who likely did exist). One presumes this was just one of hundreds of statements taken and not given any particular prominence.
She then used a false name to say that a similar looking man was down near the murder scene.
To me it's quite clear the 'Fiona' report was complete hogwash and simply designed to get the Gardai back to her (as Marie) door so she could feel important and be a hero (she probably convinced herself the man outside her shop was the killer - I mean, he did look foreign after all!). "Jaysis Tommy, the description this Fiona wan gave sounds very like the person Marie Farrell described - let's talk to her, she might break the case for us". Just looking for attention really. Of course the problem was the Gardai then decided she could be useful for their own purposes.....
Yeah.
Her evidence made a successful prosecution of anyone in this case almost impossible. I'd say it heavily influenced the DPP not to bring charges as he knew her evidence would be laughed out of court.
A grifter???!
She has a reputation has a grifter apparently.
But the fact she even used a false name in the beginning but then had no issue with being in the limelight
I honestly think she is someone with a lot of secrets and doesn’t even know what’s truth anymore
i also think it would be interesting to get the opinion of someone who actually knows her and an insight into her as a person because how it looks is she’s a very strange individual
I can’t see what part of her story could be true because she changed it so much it’s so infuriating to read and she has done irreparable damage to this case
I don’t think anything she has said can be held with any credibility
firstly saying guards would tell she had a child back in her home town this has never been proven to be true
why did she ever leave her home town
apparently she was wanted in the uk for benefit fraud
also her husband has a questionable history of violence
and still she refused to name who was with that night if she was even with anyone
there’s too many questions with her that were not explored properly I find her highly suspicious and also why has she never faced prosecution for perverting the course of justice
I think she wasn't even out and about.
I think she thought she was being helpful or something.
I don't know really. It would be great if she sat down with a solicitor and told the full truth and was offered immunity or something.
I still think the first sighting outside her shop was truthful but obviously it could've been just a random guy wandering around Schull.
The infuriating thing about Marie Farrell is that some of what she has said is the truth, but which bit?
Bit like my marketing manager. He knows 50% of his marketing budgtet is wasted, but he doesn't know which 50%.
My gut feel is she was with a Garda that night.
I think that aspect of her statement is true as it's her first statement and she did it in person.
I think the "Fiona" stuff can't be trusted.
Either way, she's an unreliable witness so I wouldn't give much weight to it.
Also if a man was outside her shop, it might've been completely innocuous. Just some guy looking for somewhere to eat or something or waiting to meet someone.
personally I wouldn’t take anything she says as truth if that’s the only basis of thinking it was her brother I wouldn’t be so sure!
genuinely believe there’s a lot out there who know more than what they say
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