Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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Violent people come from violent backgrounds. She had a brother.
She benefitted enormously. She was working in Unifrance at the time. She's still very prominent in the French film industry.
So you're saying there's a connection between the deaths and she's somehow involved in the murder
Not a direct connection. I'm saying there's a genetic and environment connection with violence.
People who grow up in violent households are more likely to be violent as adults.
I'm not sure what I can say here.
Np it's just the point you were making wasn't at all clear to me anyway
You're saying because her mother was murdered she's somehow predisposed to violence and also stood to benefit financially through DTP
And she happens to have a brother who may have been the killer ?
I'm implying her brother did it. He matches Marie Farrell's description. You can search his image online.
Although obviously Marie Farrell's testimony could be nonsense.
Does he have any criminal record or history of violence
Not that I know of.
But I haven't searched.
They grew up in Le Harve.
There was probably plenty of ferries from that part of France to Cork or Rosslare back then.
I remember in one of the documentaries one of the old news items said "Gardai are checking airline and ferry passenger lists".
Do you think they still have them? Although it was probably easy enough to travel on false ID back then.
It seems a stretch to me although obviously I'm firmly of the view that Bailey likely killed her
The false alibi being the biggest pointer
Was their pending divorce acrimonious?
None of the family have any suspicions about Daniel being involved afaik
Do you think he could have gone to Bailey’s place then as well, maybe after the murder? And scratched him? Or riled up the turkey to do it? I guess anything is possible in fairness, and in fowlness… He could have come over from L’Harve in his beret, hid up the Christmas tree and bided his time…
I think the brother chased bailey up the Christmas tree
That accounts for the murder and the scratches 😁
I'm beginning to lean to the view that Jules may have known about the murder
Some way or other , although not exactly sure of her complicity or knowledge or even if she did in fact know
It's not that much of a stretch. Cui Bono. There's only a few people with an actual motive. Melita, Bruno, Daniel, Alfie Lyons (at a stretch). That's it really.
The false alibi isn't much of a false alibi.
Bailey said he was in the house all night. He got out of bed to write the article in the kitchen. He typed it up in the studio in the morning.
I don't think they were separated, never mind divorced. They were still living together.
I don't think Daniel was involved. I think he was happy out having affairs.
It's less ridiculous than Bailey having done it.
Bailey had no motive and barely knew her.
You're making an assumption that bailey had no motive and barely knew her
We don't know thats true
As far as we know. There's no evidence.
You assume but we don't know
I believe Bailey killed her but I don't know that
He didn't.
I'm tempted to phone Bandon Garda Station about looking into Melita's brother. Maybe they can show his photo to Marie Farrell.
I know this is a Garda bashing zone, but I'd say by now they have well covered Sophie's husband, his relationships and their families.
You should ring them, you might be onto something there.
They might make you an honorary investigator and draft you in next time they are stuck.
Would they? It was mentioned on the thread that when the Guards went to France to speak to Daniel they weren't allowed. The assistance from the French being very selective. So how would they do that without being able to independently investigate?
Lol.
It's called being "deputised".
That's him.
Marie Farrell described him as "sallow, almost middle eastern, thin, long face, stubble, big hairy ass".
Tis the head off him.
You firmly believe that Bailey killed her but couldn't be bothered reading the DPP's review which effectively removes Bailey as a serious suspect based on the available "evidence"? 🙄
Read "PhilMathers" on Reddit.
You're back with that about me not reading the dpp report
So he cleared Bailey as a suspect but yet apparently he is still the chief suspect and the garda cold case review is solely focussed on him
I can put 2+2 together and come up with 4
Bailey likely killed her. The gardai got the right man but ballsed up the investigation and fitted up the witness evidence imo
As per @orangerhyme's post above, have a read through this when you have 15 minutes spare and then tell us if you still think Bailey did it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderAtTheCottage/comments/xf1kc4/bailey_didnt_do_it/
There is nothing really to implicate Bailey's involvement in the murder aside from what AGS are asserting. What they've asserted has been dismissed by the DPP and to our knowledge pretty much nothing new has come to light since that hasn't been found to have been made up (with the help & encouragement of AGS) or can easily be incorrect due to the passage of time. There is absolutely no hard evidence despite all of the efforts put in by the investigating team.
And you're well aware that it wouldn't be the first time that AGS members identified a suspect (despite no actual evidence or even ignoring evidence) and then put them in the frame for a murder. The only reason you know about Bailey is because the Gardai went around the area soon after the murder effectively accusing him. AGS also have been feeding the media with their belief and this is what everyone gets to read. Now most people assume there is no smoke without fire.
Now maybe Bailey did it and if evidence comes to light then I'll happily welcome our legal system officially judging him. However, it does appear that AGS are firmly focused on getting Bailey and firmly ignoring all other potential murderers. Is that giving Sophie justice?
Don't think you mentioned the false alibi ,the scratches or the confessions there
Read the DPP report and/or read the link I posted above.
If you're happy with your bias then fine but don't tell us how you firmly know that Bailey killed her if you're choosing to follow this case in blissful ignorance!
You keep referring me to the report
Explain the alibi
They both said he didn't leave the bed originally
Jules changed her story and then bailey said he left to write an article, about 8 hrs unaccounted for i believe
Sigh - would you just read the links!
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